parallel guides for the first time

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So i just picked up my parallel guides to use on my first set of kitchen cabinets.  I did use the parallel guides in the festool cabinet class though. 

I have a stack of plywood in my truck to break down, and I thought i would just pull out one at a time to my cutting table (saw horses) and go to town with the parallel guide.  How do you guys (or do you) square the edge with the guide already set?  Don't tell me I need to buy another rail?

 
Steven, I'll make the cut to clean up the factory edge on the first sheet without the guides attached.  After you've got the first ripped you have to remove the stops to clean up the factory edge on the next sheet.  Or, simply loosen one guide and spread it farther apart so you've got room for the stops to fit between the sheet.  Then move it back to start cutting your pieces. 
 
I like to make the first rip a narrow one for nailers and stretchers and kill two birds.  You can hide a very torn up edge that way. 
 
If you are talking about squaring the ends of your newly parallelled sheets, I use a second rail and a framing square to get it perfect.  You can just use a framing square without the second rail, but the two rail method gives you better registration.  I just butt the one rail to the edge I want to square to and set the other perpendicular to it.

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Brice Burrell said:
Steven, I'll make the cut to clean up the factory edge on the first sheet without the guides attached.   simply loosen one guide and spread it farther apart so you've got room for the stops to fit between the sheet.  Then move it back to start cutting your pieces.   

This is what I ended up doing.  It's just not the "production" approach I was looking for.  Besides loosening the guides and spreading them, you have to keep spinning the rail around.  I think another rail is the way to go
 
To clean up the factory edge on the "rip" or "long-length", I was originally trimming off a small amount without using the parallel guides, using only the rails to get a fresh edge.  I have now changed this slightly using the parallel guides in addition to the rails.
1.  Let say that you are wanting 11" finished "rips".  Set the parallel guides to 11 1/8" or 11 1/4" for the first  rip using the guide rail.  Trim this piece off.
2.  Reset the guides to 11"
3.  Flip the first piece and cut the rough edge off to get the piece down to 11"
4.  Cut all of the others at 11" using the parallel guides on the rail.  This goes fast once you get the hang of it. 

If you are doing a lot of work, set up some sort of "story sticks" so you can alternate the 11 and 11 1/8 settings without even looking at the distance markings on the parallel guides

Squaring  --  The parallel guides really are not designed for squaring.  Here is what I do:
1.  I have a real short guide rail from Festool that I use for the initial cut when squaring up the ends of the rips from above.  I do not use the parallel guides to try to square this up but rather:
a.  Most often I use a piece of plywood that I know is dead on square to align the rail by clamping that piece of plywood on the piece to be cut
      Trim the end using the guide rail to guide the saw
  b.  Alternatively,  forget the guide rail, clamp the dead-on square piece of plywood to the piece and trim with the saw, using the plywood edge as a guide
2.  Use the parallel guides on succeeding cuts to get a series of repetitive square pieces that have parallel edges

I do have 3 videos on the Festool web site on the parallel guides and extensions that address these issues.  Just search for my name  "RDMuller".  The steps above are slight modifications of what is out there.
 
Here are the links  --- the winning video refers to a contest by Cabinetmaker/FDM magazine where this was named the best training vide

Winning Video (Festool Saw for Large Panels):  Video_1_Festool TS 55 Plunge Saw with Parallel Guides for Cutting Plywood

Related Video (Festool Parallel Guides):  Video 2 Festool Parallel Guides For Repetitive Cutting

Related Video (Festool Parallel Guide Extensions): Video_3_Festool Parallel Guide Extensions for cutting narrow pieces

There is a way to access these through the FOG also
 
Emer Construction said:
Brice Burrell said:
Steven, I'll make the cut to clean up the factory edge on the first sheet without the guides attached.   simply loosen one guide and spread it farther apart so you've got room for the stops to fit between the sheet.  Then move it back to start cutting your pieces.   

This is what I ended up doing.  It's just not the "production" approach I was looking for.  Besides loosening the guides and spreading them, you have to keep spinning the rail around.  I think another rail is the way to go

Me too, I bought the 3000 mm rail.
 
Good thing I read this thread, I used to take of the parallel-guides for each new sheet. But I just now realised I have a second 3000 mm rail [doh] (I had to buy another one together with the parallel-guides, because the one I already had was the older type, with only one rib.)
 
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