Planex Woes.....I wish I had my $1500 back!

Ben H

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I bought Planex and harness to aid me in smoothing out the ceiling in my new home.  I hate textured drywall.  While the tool is what you would expect from Festool, it's too damn heavy to hold above your head for any amount of time.  I find the harness completely useless.  When you wear it, you sandwich the sander between the ceiling the and harness pocket.  If you get too vertical with the sander it will dig in and destroy the surface. 

Does anyone have any pointers for using this thing?  Sanding wall patches and tape lines is fine.  It's holding it above my head for 3k sq ft that sucks so much.   
 
Lift some weights?  Defying gravity for long periods can get tiring. 

I have a crappy porter cable sander, its not that bad and it is a pos compared to the planex.
 
Have you got it set to the right suction option?  You can hang it off the ceiling without holding it up at all. All the effort would be moving it around, holding it up should be almost entirely the suction from the vac.  It is taxing on the arms nonetheless.
 
I run it power setting 3.  Again, it sands fine, it's a nice tool, just way too heavy for ceiling work.  Mine will not suction to ceiling at all.  But I have  texture too, that can't help make a seal.
 
I've done a bit of ceiling/popcorn removal with my planex and I agree, it is heavy.  That said, the suggestion above of lifting weights helps.  [big grin]

Helps to be 6' 2" and to be honest I haven't saved up for the harness just yet.  I've done some ceilings with a pole sander/scraper and a porter cable when I was younger and I think the planex is less of a workout.  It is definitely faster and with the long shaft on it, much less stretching needed vs my porter cable.  The dust collection is also eons better, so you'll still be alive for the next ceiling job (good, bad, your mileage may vary).

About the only tip I have is max the suction and stick it to the ceiling when you get a little tired.  Not having to lug the thing up and down every once in a while saves on the workout.  I loaned mine to a buddy and I showed him he could hang it on the wall, he's pretty spindly and appreciated not having to pick it up/down when he stopped/started.  It let him work the way he likes, ie. sand a little, check the spot, rinse repeat.

The only other thing, is perhaps you could do a combo.  Spray the ceiling down, take a scraper to it to do the bulk, but don't be super picky.  Once it dries, take the planex to it to finish it off / smooth it nicely.  Maybe that would be less of a workout.  It might make you appreciate the planex more perhaps?
 
I haven't seen this guy on the FOG lately but he is amazingly good at his craft, drywall.


Aka: Saskataper

You'll probably enjoy his other videos too. Don't forget to read the comments to his videos, he is generous with tips and assistance.

Good luck and persevere, you'll get there. If not, 30 days?
 
You know, I'm 6'2", weigh 220 pounds, and lift weights 6 days a week and this thing is still kicking my butt.  [mad] 

I've had it for a couple of years now.  I used it all last year finishing the new work in the basement and it did great.  The harness however still seems useless.

 
socaljohn said:
I haven't seen this guy on the FOG lately but he is amazingly good at his craft, drywall.


Aka: Saskataper

You'll probably enjoy his other videos too. Don't forget to read the comments to his videos, he is generous with tips and assistance.

Good luck and persevere, you'll get there. If not, 30 days?


that was mesmerizing.  Never thought I would watch a 5 minute video of drywall sanding.  Must be the cold medication 8)
 
I bought it with harness for a ceiling job but unfortunately the harness is even worse when dealing with vaulted ceilings which was about 75% of the project. Plus slowing down around cans it would get way too aggressive. I had to return it all, just a really bad fit for my particular application.
 
This topic is fairly old and has been inactive for over a year. But it still comes up in search. I am not a pro and have limited experience with Planex. I bought it in the spring of 2015 for my home remodeling project and used it with harness to sand ceiling at 3 stages of remodeling (3 different areas of the house), with a few months in between.

The first room felt like a nightmare, just as described in the opening post. The tool felt heavy and tough on hands and  back. It was not a big room, but I barely made it through the ceiling. This did not sound right, and upon closer inspection, it was not. I looked at pictures and videos in the internet and realized that I did not set up my harness correctly (the pocket for the end of the extension tube was between my legs but should have been on the side of my body). The length of the extension was not set up correctly (too short) and the tool was too vertical. I also could not figure out the correct setting for suction, so I ended up pushing the tool against the ceiling. Any awkward movement would indeed lead to jamming the tool between the harness and the ceiling and scuff marks.

The second area was easier. It was larger, and I was less tired, and the finished surface quality got better.

The third area was yet easier. The tool still felt a little heavy, but much less so than in the second run and way less so than in the fist run. These three incidence of tool use were too far apart in time to call it "fitness level improvement". I think I finally figured out how to correctly set up the harness and the extension rod, how to set up suction and how to hold the tool correctly. It is right that with the right suction you can let your hands go and it will stay put on the ceiling. I found that the extension should be long enough to keep the tool at sufficient angle to the ceiling (not too vertical) and the auxiliary handle on the harness extension set should be high enough to control the tool easily. The tool should be moved side to side, not forward and back (this movement is done by your feet, not by hands). The third run ended with only one accidental scuff mark, much less dust than in the first runs because I did not need to detach the sanding head from the ceiling nearly as much, and much less overall physical effort.

The message is that this tool requires a learning experience to feel manageable. It is not a very long learning process, but it is not instant. On first run, it was hard, on the third sub-project it was even kind of fun to sand the drywall - quickly and without a dust mask and not nearly as physically heavy. My remodeling is almost over. I will most likely put the tool on sale some time soon as I do not anticipate its use in any near future, but I think I will be sort of missing it...
 
No. Vaulted ceiling angle upwards at one or both sides of the room. Mine are flat and horizontal but a little higher than "standard" 8 feet, about 106" / 270 cm high.

I am no expert, but I am guessing that vaulted ceiling would warrant scaffolding to do it as a wall.
 
We are using the PLANEX in commercial situation.  Works well once set up correctly.

for popcorn removal we are using the 30 grit with hard pad

Harness setup is crucial.  We set suction to max and adjust speed as you set into surface.  Start slower and speed up once suctioned on.(prevents gouging/running)

Harness set to one side maybe 5-10 degree angle from vertical.  Using handle to pull back and increase pressure. I moved backwards with head moving side to side.

Initially it was very difficult and tiring but once I got angle set etc it ate through the removal.  Did a quick once over afterward with finer grit just to remove any imperfections.  We use it on walls as well for texture removal.

Of course use it for sanding all other regular sanding

 
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