Precisio CS70 EB Set

[Bob Menefee]

Thats looks great, Would love to get one some day.

 

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Awesome deal Alex and what a beaut. Just like everyone else here I want one

I'm noticing a pile of sawdust on the floor. Is dust collection really that bad or did you use it without the vac that time?

Enjoy it!

 

[itsmehc]

Dust is the key word, I have the same setup,

Last week I tested "strapping" a (cheep) plastic shopping bag on the two hooks that holds the extension plate on the far end to capture the dust, and it works.
No longer as much dust on the ground.

It is not practical though if you like to pull the saw towards you.

 

[vulcan]

Enhorabuena por tu compra, yo la tengo desde hace algunos años y cada día estoy mas contento, perdonad que escriba en español pero mi ingles es muy rudimentario, así que me defiendo a través del traductor de google, vivo en España y soy un asiduo de este foro felicidades a sus creadores y gracias a todos por lo que aportáis en el gracias a lo cual aprendo tanto, aquí un amigo para lo que queráis. [big grin]

Allow me to translate as best as I can.

Congratulations on your purchase, I have had one for several years and every day I am happier, sorry for writing in Spanish but my English is very basic, so I get by with the google translator, I live in Spain and I am a fan of this forum, well done to its creators and to all those who have posted I have learned so much, here you have a friend for whatever you want.

(this last bit is better translated as "I am here to help however I may." )

My Spanish is a bit rusty but that's the general gist.

Richard.

Thank you Richard Leon for your good traducion, from now on in what it fences to writing I will translate it with google, I do not see correctly to write in another language different from the majority, ask all you forgive. [unsure]

 

[AlexThePalex]

Awesome deal Alex and what a beaut. Just like everyone else here I want one

I'm noticing a pile of sawdust on the floor. Is dust collection really that bad or did you use it without the vac that time?

Enjoy it!

The pile of dust came with the saw, and unfortunately the Y-shaped hose didn't.  [unsure] These pictures were made the first time I set it up in my backyard, I hadn't used it yet, but all the dust fell out all by itself. I can't comment yet on it's dust collection because I got the Y-hose not long ago and still have to use it for the first time.

Until now I have only used the saw with my CT22 with the standard D27 hose on the hole in the casing below the table. It's not perfect. The moment I fold the table up again and put it on it's side for transport a whole heap of sawdust falls out of the bottom casing.

 

[GhostFist]

Ya some video with your review please? I know virtually nothing about this saw but would like to see how it differs from other portable table saws on teh market

 

[Frank-Jan]

This video shows another undercut pullsaw by metabo, which has the same basic functionality: link

There used to be a computer animation on the German and Dutch festool sites that showed some of the precisio-specific features like the blade change, splinterguard etc. but those got lost when they switched to the current website design (along with a database with lots of usefull pdf files that showed practical examples of using different festool tools, including the precisio)

Alex, I wanted to ask you sooner, in some of the pictures it shows the saw with the blade in the middle of the table; was there something wrong with the spring of your saw; or is there a way of locking it in that location? (I have an older CS70 (that has a black dustshroud instead of the clear one) so it could be a feature that wasn't on my saw yet)

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Man, you guys get all the cool tools.

I think I can get the Mafell version of those saw's in the states.

It may take a while but, I know of a full line dealer here.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Ya some video with your review please? I know virtually nothing about this saw but would like to see how it differs from other portable table saws on teh market

I planned on making a review but I haven't had the time yet to do this properly, sorry. I'm pretty sure it's not gonna be a video though.

Alex, I wanted to ask you sooner, in some of the pictures it shows the saw with the blade in the middle of the table; was there something wrong with the spring of your saw; or is there a way of locking it in that location?

Nothing wrong there, the saw is locked at that place. The middle position is meant for when you use it as a table saw. Instead of using the pull action the blade is locked in the middle and doesn't move, instead you move the workpiece like with a normal table saw.

 

[mattfc]

I have one general question though, as you can see in above pictures the aluminium surface has lots of superficial but ugly looking scratches. Does anybody know if there's a way to polish/buff them out of the aluminium with for instance a Rotex?

I don't think so because if its the same as the CMS plates, its anodised (e.g the scratch is down through the finish to bare metal)... you will mess it up if you sand, plus will oxidise over time

 

[GhostFist]

pardon my ignorance, but I've never seen a saw of this type. What advantage does the pull action give you? I suppose in some instances it might give a safety advantage as I assume you could lock a piece in place and keep your digits away from the blade. Is that the main reason?

 

[AlexThePalex]

I have one general question though, as you can see in above pictures the aluminium surface has lots of superficial but ugly looking scratches. Does anybody know if there's a way to polish/buff them out of the aluminium with for instance a Rotex?

I don't think so because if its the same as the CMS plates, its anodised (e.g the scratch is down through the finish to bare metal)... you will mess it up if you sand, plus will oxidise over time

Well, I gave up on the idea already.

pardon my ignorance, but I've never seen a saw of this type. What advantage does the pull action give you? I suppose in some instances it might give a safety advantage as I assume you could lock a piece in place and keep your digits away from the blade. Is that the main reason?

I find the pull action a great feature. It really feels very safe. You yourself can stand perfectly still, the hand on the saw that holds the workpiece doesn't have to move, and you don't have to move your feet either. This way you can always keep perfect balance. All you do is pull the rod with the saw attached towards you and the blade slides through the workpiece. The saw also has a groove in which you can fit a Festool clamp. Very often I use a quick clamp to secure the workpiece and that makes life so easy and safe. Normally I am always a bit scared when using a table saw because of the potential for hurt, but with this pull action I feel perfectly safe. I love the pull action.

 

[GhostFist]

So what is the max pull on one of these saws? they do lock in place to use as a regular table saw as well, correct?

 

[Frank-Jan]

Maximum crosscut width at 90° is 320mm at 45° it's 226mm.
Normally the blade is locked in the rear position, you have to turn the knob on the pull-rod to unlock it (there's also a lever to luck it in the front position aswell, so you can adjust the bevel and blade height from the front of the machine).

There's a damper on the slide mechanism like on soft-close drawers so the table won't topple over if you let it go after making a cut.

 

[AlexThePalex]

So what is the max pull on one of these saws? they do lock in place to use as a regular table saw as well, correct?

I haven't measured it exactly but I think it's about 30 cm (1 foot). The table has 3 locking positions.

The standard position with the saw all the way to the back is when you use it as a pull saw. See picture below. The sled with the saw is pulled forward by a the rod sticking out of the middle of the front if the table. You have to twist the knob on the rod to the side to unlock it and then you can pull it forward.

BTW, the picture below show the saw in its basic configuration without the extensions. I mostly use it this way because you only need the extensions for sawing pieces bigger than 30 cm. I was laying a laminate flooring here so I left the extensions at home. You can also see how a clamp fits in its slot.

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The second position as is shown below is in the middle to use it as a table saw. The rod you use to pull it forward has a couple of indents. If you look at the pics you'll see a green knob to the left of the mount of the rod, that knob is used to lock the rod by it's indents.  

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The third position is with the saw all the way to the front. That position is only meant for servicing the saw, like changing the blade or the splinter guard. You are not supposed to saw at that position. I don't have a picture right now with the saw at that position, but on the pics in my first post above you can see the table saw in the open position where you can change the blade. I mostly do this in the middle position because it's just as easy as in the front position.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

you tease.

 

[Frank-Jan]

Alex, I wanted to ask you sooner, in some of the pictures it shows the saw with the blade in the middle of the table; was there something wrong with the spring of your saw; or is there a way of locking it in that location?

Nothing wrong there, the saw is locked at that place. The middle position is meant for when you use it as a table saw. Instead of using the pull action the blade is locked in the middle and doesn't move, instead you move the workpiece like with a normal table saw.

Thanks Alex, I didn't know of the extra notch in the pull-bar (and my saw is about seven years old now  ) I've used it as a table saw plenty of times, but always with the blade in the rear position, with the blade in the middle of the table, I don't need to bring the outfeed table extension for just a few cuts. (I just checked, mine has the notch too, so it isn't a feature that was added later, I'm still a bit shocked I totally missed that part in the manual when I just got the saw.)

 

[festooldude]

Alex, I wanted to ask you sooner, in some of the pictures it shows the saw with the blade in the middle of the table; was there something wrong with the spring of your saw; or is there a way of locking it in that location?

Nothing wrong there, the saw is locked at that place. The middle position is meant for when you use it as a table saw. Instead of using the pull action the blade is locked in the middle and doesn't move, instead you move the workpiece like with a normal table saw.

Thanks Alex, I didn't know of the extra notch in the pull-bar (and my saw is about seven years old now  ) I've used it as a table saw plenty of times, but always with the blade in the rear position, with the blade in the middle of the table, I don't need to bring the outfeed table extension for just a few cuts. (I just checked, mine has the notch too, so it isn't a feature that was added later, I'm still a bit shocked I totally missed that part in the manual when I just got the saw.)

if its green, its an adjustable! [big grin]