[Project 35] Beech & sapele record player cabinet

[derekcohen]

Matt, the harsh reality is that wood moves. It is possible that it may stop doing so and return to shape.

I like the idea and concept. What I would do - if you want to be safe - is rout a long section to match the ends, and then cross-cut it into strips. Glue them in to create a checkerboard ... or whatever pattern you wish. These stretchers will held hold the battens in position.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[mattbyington]

[member=167]neilc[/member] thank you!! That is exactly what I was thinking. I was talking it over with the design chief (the wife). She didn't want anything horizontal...I'm going to make one anyways and install it without glue just to see what it looks like.

[member=15585]Svar[/member] good idea... thanks so much man. I will play with my options.

[member=60789]mkasdin[/member] that would work if I didn't already glue both doors up

[member=59039]mrFinpgh[/member] I think you hit the nail on the head. I made all of the doors in 1 day. I should have let the wood rest. Ah well you live and learn.

[member=4358]derekcohen[/member] that would certainly be more stable but my wife didn't want any horizontals on the door. But I appreciate the idea and agree it would be way more stable!

Matt

 

[mattbyington]

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[derekcohen]

Matt, that is shaping up beautifully. Nice work!

The only area I dislike is the choice of hinge. Those belong in a kitchen. Probably no one will notice, and lots like them, but I would not use them again in a similar situation. Sorry for the negative comment.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[mattbyington]

[member=4358]derekcohen[/member] thank you sir! No need to apologize at all. I appreciate the constructive criticism. Always trying to improve.

Which hinge would have been more appropriate to use here, so I know for next time?

Matt

 

[dltflt]

Matt you do beautiful work. Love the design.

 

[derekcohen]

[member=4358]derekcohen[/member] thank you sir! No need to apologize at all. I appreciate the constructive criticism. Always trying to improve.

Which hinge would have been more appropriate to use here, so I know for next time?

Matt

Matt, I like these flap hinges for your doors (in the future). They are neat and aesthetic ... brass or steel ...

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[nclemmons]

[member=4358]derekcohen[/member] - I've seen those used in tabletops.  But I'm confused on those for a cabinet...

Don't think they would work for Matt's cabinet, unless I'm missing something. He has an overlay door with no face frame.  So the door has to clear the front of the frame with the overlay.

 

[Svar]

Those flap hinges won't work on overlay door, or any door for that matter. If you want concealed hinges on overlay door your choice is quite limited. There are few employing the same principle as Matt's choice but a bit less clunky. You can use Soss type hinge, but it will only work if your door is relatively thick, since in overlay configuration it will mortice into the inner face. Also, there is one type of knife hinge that will work - not concealed, but subtle enough.

 

[rvieceli]

I feel reasonably confident that [member=4358]derekcohen[/member] doesn’t do too many overlay doors and he’s probably right.

Ron

 

[derekcohen]

My fault - I was not paying attention to the fact that they are overlay doors.

My other choices are more appropriate ...

1. knife hinges - Krenov used these a lot.

2. Butt hinges - not as invisible, but still a lot neater than kitchen cabinet hinges (which will lose settings over time).

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[c_dwyer]

That is a really cool design, and those doors are fantastic!  Great job Matt!

 

[mattbyington]

[member=2912]Don T[/member] thank you so much!

[member=4358]derekcohen[/member] got it, looking into the knife hinges, it seems i could use Shaper Origin I have to do the inlay pockets for them .. that might be cool. I will try it out, thank you so much!

[member=42263]c_dwyer[/member] thank you!

[member=15585]Svar[/member] thanks as always for your insight. super helpful.

It sounds like overlay isn't that popular and maybe inset could have been a better choice? Picturing it in my head it would definitely look nice with the doors inset.

In the home stretch now team....

Matt

 

[mattbyington]

First coat of finish went on this morning! arm-r-seal Satin.

In the home stretch now.

So far I don't see any huge issues with that end grain at least from aesthetic point of view..keeping an eye on it though....

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[tallgrass]

love  it keep it up. Glad to see you are using your Origin and station. it is a great tool. You are doing great work.

 

[AnthonyE]

It's def a great looking piece and great design.  You're doing really good work.

As others already pointed out the shelf grain should most certainly match the direct of the rest of the piece but at this point wouldn't worry too much about it.  The glue joint may have issues in the future but that can ultimately be repaired if issues do arise.

Aesthetically speaking the end grain will stand out a bit when the cabinet is opened.  The biggest issue with this orientation is that the shelf is going to contract and expand causing the vertical dividers to bow in both directions.  It's always surprising how much wood does expand and contract.  If orientated the same direction as the rest of the cabinet all of wood will expand and contract at the same rate.

That's a huge part of why I love woodworking, there is so much to learn and every piece teaches you something new no matter how long you've been doing it.

 

[mattbyington]

[member=2242]tallgrass[/member] thanks so much man!! Yeah I love it! Very versatile without taking up the space of a large CNC.

[member=73182]AnthonyE[/member] thank you so much I really appreciate that. I did learn a lot on this build. The shelf grain direction of course being one of them. I agree with you. it's one of the reasons I like it, too. Always a lesson to be learned with every single project.

With that said, it's all done team! Thanks for everyone's support and help. I learned a lot. On to the next one soon....

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[Doug S]

Nice job Matt, looks great.

Regarding the middle shelf, in some of the photos it actually looks right that the grain direction of the shelf matches the grain direction of the doors so I reckon you could say it's a design feature  [wink]

 

[nclemmons]

Nice work, Matt.  You’re getting some great use out of that new tablesaw and planer!

How did you resolve the bowing of the strips?  And can you share a pic of the shorter leg side?