Protool Duradrive...drywall screwgun

[ajones]

Its a proper bricks and morter festool/protool dealership they also sell fixings I have spend over a ?1000. with them Warren runs it he also sells on ebay festool shop is his ebay shop name.

 

[Deansocial]

they have only just started selling it, Hafele sold it a while back but only drills. I just think it hasnt taken off in uk yet

 

[ajones]

they have only just started selling it, Hafele sold it a while back but only drills. I just think it hasnt taken off in uk yet

Yes the protool is a new addition for toolfest. protool sales are  not going to take off anytime soon with no retailers  [doh]

 

[AlexThePalex]

they have only just started selling it, Hafele sold it a while back but only drills. I just think it hasnt taken off in uk yet

Yes the protool is a new addition for toolfest. protool sales are  not going to take off anytime soon with no retailers  [doh]

I think it has something to do with how Protool is put in the market. Protool is meant for construction work. Construction companies often need so much tools that that market developed differently from how the market for other branches or hobbyists works.

I have plenty of Festool dealers in my area, I think that in a 25 km radius I can find almost 50. But still even Festool is pretty unknown to the public. but in that same radius I think I can only find 3 or 4 Protool dealers. Who all have only a very limited supply in store.

The same goes for other brands that are directed specifically at construction work, brands like Hilti, Spit and Mafell. You don't see them in the brick and mortar stores at all. Yet all the big construction companies work with those brands. I think they mainly work with just one or a couple of tool suppliers from which they order all their tools and get them delivered on site. Since everything is on a base of special order and delivery, they don't need a dealer network.

 

 

[ajones]

Here in the UK most skilled construction workers are expected to supply their own tools (hand/power tools) if you are working for a good company they will replace consumables eg; cs blades, router cutters, and scratch. So I can not see where protools or any other brands would be sold in any volume here, in the way you describe. the only volume purchaser that I can think of,which is construction related would be the large country wide tool hire company's.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Here in the UK most skilled construction workers are expected to supply their own tools (hand/power tools)

Well, I can't comment on the UK situation, but here the company you work for supplies the tools most of the time. I do find it a bit hard to believe though that every employee in construction in the UK has to show up with his own tools. UK construction workers must be very rich.

 

[ajones]

Here in the UK most skilled construction workers are expected to supply their own tools (hand/power tools)

Well, I can't comment on the UK situation, but here the company you work for supplies the tools most of the time. I do find it a bit hard to believe though that every employee in construction in the UK has to show up with his own tools. UK construction workers must be very rich.

no not rich, especially when the county is in recession and you have cheap eastern European labour. but you offset your purchases against your tax liability.

a good example here in the UK doors do not come fitted into frames or have any furniture ,this is done on site.a carpenter would be expected to have the necessary tools to complete this task.this work could be done with a minimum of tools or with hinge/lock jigs and a router done by hand to a good standard, around 6 doors a day could be fitted. with jigs and a router around 13 doors. the onus is on the carpenter as to what tools they use, don't hang enough doors you could be down the road(UK speak for you services are no longer required) and no construction firm that I have worked for will provide jigs or router.if you do not have the tools you will gravitate to the bottom of the job food chain. [scared]

 

[jvsteenb]

but here the company you work for supplies the tools most of the time

Then again this may well be what's driving a lot of "underhand" work over here.
There's lots of guys that go around to make extra money after hours, using professional high quality tools supplied by their bosses . They take home the van - and the tools are there... Neither taxes or any other overhead cost is applicable ( after all they do have a daytime job ) so it's rather easy to "underbid" small contractors.
This habit is so widespread, I've come across a couple of home-owners that felt sort of insulted when I didn't want to bid "black" - our local word for work performed without taxes or anything.
Some of them reconsidered after I explaine dthe liability issues and the fact that my insurance covers a lot of their potential problems, but it's still hard to compete this way.

At least when every construction worker has to cater for his own tools, that particular unfair advantage will be minimised...

OK, OK, end of rant....

Regards,

Job

 

[ajones]

I have a house in France and the same word on the black. is used there as well. So if you paid someone on the black to work say, on your roof and they fell off you would be responsible and would have to pay for all their treatment and loss of earnings it could bankrupt you why do homeowners take the risk..

 

[woodguy7]

Back to the OP, what happened to the "shootout" between the Protool & the Hilti ?

 

[jmbfestool]

Here in the UK most skilled construction workers are expected to supply their own tools (hand/power tools)

Well, I can't comment on the UK situation, but here the company you work for supplies the tools most of the time. I do find it a bit hard to believe though that every employee in construction in the UK has to show up with his own tools. UK construction workers must be very rich.

Oh yea all uk contractors have to supply their own.  Really good companies do supply some tools the company I worked for on the Books was one of those really good companies and even said dont worrie we have routers jigsaw chopsaw when a contractor turned up which made me very angry seen as they are on more money than me and its ONE of the reasons why I left the company to go as a contractor.. but most good companies like Festoolfootstool said will replace blades and things.

 

[Frank-Jan]

It bought the 12 v duradrive yesterday, I didn't use it myself much (only to demonstrate; I was installing insulated glazing while my father and one of the guys were closing up the ceiling for the plasterers), but the oldtimers liked it [wink].

The makita corded they used the day before started making weird sounds like the bearings where gone, so I attached the nosepiece of that one to the backup makita. (we have two of the old model makita's, that only take screws up to 41mm, and run at 4500 rpm I couldn't make out the production year on the specs  tab anymore, but it started with 19.. I weighed both machines on a kitchenscale, just out of curiousity, because the protool felt heavier but they weigh exactly the same. (I was going to check out the fein corded at the store, because they are discontinueing the sales of all fein machines exept for the multimaster and the supercut so they went at a discount; but they didn't have it anymore)

 

[DryPro]

I am also curious to hear who made it ... I vote for SD 5000-A!