Restoring Knotty Pine Cabinets

JHC

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This is a cabinet painting job we started last week, and I was in the shop today sanding these doors. Putting the RO 90 to work, with a 60/150 sanding. The end grains were never rough sanded so they were the worst. I could have really used the LS 150 today on the rabbits and profiles. Hopefully can procure one before I start the second stage, and get more doors in the shop. The interface pad wasn't much help.

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Shame to paint them.
 
What was on them, Tommy? And, yes, I think the LS130 would have been all over those profiles and flats.
 
Scott it appears to have been oil base poly. Will be shooting oil primer coats here in a bit this afternoon. Tried kem aqua but the bleed was to severe.
 
Making progress on our knotty pine painting job in Pender county.

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As mentioned we used shellac for our primer choice on this paneling and trim because of the knots and tannin.

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Walls will be getting aura, trim and doors will be done in advance satin.

Sneak peak of cabinet doors. These are the backs after about a two hour cure. Sherwin Williams kem aqua plus in satin.

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Door prep and primer coat.

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Doors are done. BM Advance satin looking good as always.

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Good looking show, Tommy. If you run across this situation again in Pender County North Carolina, I would recommend Kilz Max primer. Seals out the bleed, sprays well, dries fast and sands to powder. I like it better for that app than SW W&W (bleeds) and BM046 (doesnt sand to powder as well). KM is waterborne but you would swear it was bin without the stink.
 
Scott I have the final sets of cabinets to do, and will test out the max. I honestly do not think there is a wb primer that will seal these knots. There are plenty that bled through the first coat of shellac. This is this final topcoat on the doors, I just finished spraying.

Wet of course.  [big grin]

 
Na this is Kem Aqua plus in satin, and it was sprayed with the FP 395. We color matched the trim package in advance, and it looks really close in finishes. If you didn't know where the sprayed cabinetry began and the brushed advance began it would be tough to find it. Advance levels so sweet for brush work.
 
JHC said:
I could have really used the LS 150 today on the rabbits and profiles. Hopefully can procure one before I start the second stage, and get more doors in the shop. The interface pad wasn't much help.

What did you use to sand the profiles and rabbets? They look really good.

JHC said:
Shame to paint them.

I have to agree, I like pine....well maybe not as much as is in that room but those doors look really good.

JHC said:
Tried kem aqua but the bleed was to severe.

What do you mean by "bleed". Is the Kem Aqua bleeding into areas you don't want it?

Tim
 
Tim Raleigh said:
What did you use to sand the profiles and rabbets? They look really good.

R0 90 with a hard pad for the rabbits, and a 6" bosch random. The profiles I removed as much clear as possible with the interface pad again on the ro90 and hand sanded.

Tim Raleigh said:
What do you mean by "bleed". Is the Kem Aqua bleeding into areas you don't want it?

The pine knots were bleeding through the wb primer.
 
JHC said:
Tim Raleigh said:
What do you mean by "bleed". Is the Kem Aqua bleeding into areas you don't want it?

The pine knots were bleeding through the wb primer.

So would an acrylic sealer have been a better choice? I would have thought the shellac would have sealed those knots.
Tim
 
I did some testing Tim, and found all four waterborne primers failed to seal. After conferring with my SW rep we agreed to use Shellac. Two were undercoaters, and the others were standard wood primers. This pine is very dense old growth, many doors would gum up granat paper from pine tar. I did try two different oil primers just to test, and they did better.
 
JHC said:
I did some testing Tim, and found all four waterborne primers failed to seal. After conferring with my SW rep we agreed to use Shellac. Two were undercoaters, and the others were standard wood primers. This pine is very dense old growth, many doors would gum up granat paper from pine tar. I did try two different oil primers just to test, and they did better.

Thanks Tom.
Definitely will keep your experience in mind if I ever run into something simalar. 
Every time I look at that photo of the sanded profiles in I think "damn, those look good".
Tim
 
Thanks Tim it was a ton of sanding, but they did come out nice. I have had a time finding hinges that would work without modifying the doors. I finally got in some 1/2 insets last week and hung a test door. Client couldn't believe they were the same doors.  [smile]
 
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