RO150 sanding finish coat ?

davidpawlak

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Any tips on using the RO150 to sand catalyzed paint/lacquer . So far the paper is clogging and not working very well.
 
I have tried all of the speed's . I'm using 320 Brilliant with the standard sanding pad . Should I change from random orbit to the other sanding mode ?
 
From my experience the finer the grit the more likely you are to heat the old finish to the point that it melts and gums up the paper quickly.  Try a grit much coarser than 320 to remove the old paint - more like 36 to 80 - then follow up with finer grits to condition the bare wood to the surface you want to repaint.  Frequent use of a gum rubber sandpaper cleaner stick will also help remove the old finish that sticks to the paper as you go.  You will quickly find a combination of grit size, sander speed, feed speed and down force that will remove the old finish quickly without doing too much damage to the wood.  Every different old finish I have had to remove restoring this 100 year old building has behaved differently.  Latex over an old oil finish is the hardest to take off as the latex wants to gum up badly before the old oil junk gets removed.  The result is a bubble gum like junk that is a PITA.  But, after enough experimenting I did find a combination that worked well.  In that case I used the RAS on low speed, very light down force and coarse grit to rip off most of the latex and then progressed through the old oil junk with the RO and finer grits to get to the bare wood.  Just before refinishing I used the Viles pads to scour the surface and scuff it just enough to take the new finish well.

Jerry
 
davidpawlak said:
Any tips on using the RO150 to sand catalyzed paint/lacquer . So far the paper is clogging and not working very well.

davidpawlak said:
I have tried all of the speed's . I'm using 320 Brilliant with the standard sanding pad . Should I change from random orbit to the other sanding mode ?

What is it you're trying to accomplish?  From these posts, I assume you are sanding between coats?  If so, hand sand....it should only take 2-3 passes by hand to level a sprayed finish.  If you're brushing, it may take 4-6 passes.  These are really light passes so it isn't much work and is actually easier to do by hand without sanding through compared to sanding by machine.

Tim
 
Jerry, I think he is trying to sand his finish coat... not strip paint from a project.

David, I just went through this issue but I was using Waterlox.  The tips that helped me were:

1) I used 320 Brilliant, sander set to '3' and the vacuum set just above 50%
2) Use _zero_ downward pressure... just use the weight of the sander as downward pressure
3) For the final coat, I went up through 500 grit for a semi-gloss look.

 
Yes I'm sanding between coats of sprayed finish. The quantity of flat panels is whats making me think to use the sander. Time is a big issue on the job. Thank you for the advice
 
i like platin and i'm no expert, however, i do get extremely disappointed when i spray on a nice finish and then scratch it up i am now a subscriber to the good enough sharp enough method of woodworking and most toher stuff as well. mind you my expectations of good enough are pretty high. dan
 
davidpawlak said:
Yes I'm sanding between coats of sprayed finish. The quantity of flat panels is whats making me think to use the sander. Time is a big issue on the job. Thank you for the advice

I've only sprayed water bases stuff - Target Coatings stuff to be more exact.  IME, I've only needed to sand after the first or second coat and then after the next to last coat.  So, if I spray 5 coats total, I've only hand sanded after 2 of those 10 coats.  I do run an air cleaner and I apply coats in a minimum of time (30 to 60 minutes between) to keep dust to a minimum.  If going for really high gloss (which I'm assuming you're not with a large quantity of panels), I'll polish with the Rotex.  Otherwise, the Festools never see the light of day when I'm spraying finish.
 
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