Rotex, ETS, EC Sanding Speed

[Cheese]

I find this a very interesting thread. I'm actually up for getting the 125 ETS EC as I will have a fair bit of vertical sanding surfaces to do this summer...

I'm doing a bath refurb right now that has several vertical surfaces and a ceiling. The EC 125 is pleasant to use on the vertical surfaces because of its low center of mass. For the ceiling I replace the 125 pad with a 150 pad and that means shorter "over the head sanding times" because of the larger pad area. The RO 125 gets used for the bull work instead of a 4" belt sander and the Pro 5 for fine finishing. The ETS 125 will be getting the boot.

 

[semenza]

I think theres some misunderstanding in the two previous posts, I read earlier on in the thread that the ETS EC 125 has the equivalent power of an 800 watt 150mm ETS EC and that why it has acceptable material removal rate..

No, the ETS125 and the ETS125EC are two very different animals.  It's all in the nomenclature in this thread.  [wink]

Seth

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I think theres some misunderstanding in the two previous posts, I read earlier on in the thread that the ETS EC 125 has the equivalent power of an 800 watt 150mm ETS EC and that why it has acceptable material removal rate..

No, the ETS125 and the ETS125EC are two very different animals.  It's all in the nomenclature in this thread.  [wink]

Seth

Dang I got side track longer down the thread then. Good to know, I still want the ETS EC 125, too many vertical surface to make working with the RO 90 very comfortable. This on job entails 30 hours of sanding in all so not really enough to warrant buying a new tool, but there will be similar jobs in the not to distant future too.

 

[leakyroof]

I think theres some misunderstanding in the two previous posts, I read earlier on in the thread that the ETS EC 125 has the equivalent power of an 800 watt 150mm ETS EC and that why it has acceptable material removal rate..

No, the ETS125 and the ETS125EC are two very different animals.  It's all in the nomenclature in this thread.  [wink]

Seth

. Yes, sorry if I confused anyone. I often leave out the ETS portion of an EC sander to make it clear which one I'm talking about since the EC models are new , brushless and very different in either size range (125mm/150mm) than the older, still current models also known as ETS sanders.... but without EC in their name....
If Festool comes out with brushless Rotex models, let's call them ED models.... [wink]

 

[Huxleywood]

[/quote]. Yes, sorry if I confused anyone. I often leave out the ETS portion of an EC sander to make it clear which one I'm talking about since the EC models are new , brushless and very different in either size range (125mm/150mm) than the older, still current models also known as ETS sanders.... but without EC in their name....
If Festool comes out with brushless Rotex models, let's call them ED models.... [wink]
[/quote]

Some days you just need a hard pad...

I do see a lot of confusion between the ETS and ETS EC, it is far worse on the non-Festool oriented sites. 

 

[Holmz]

I think theres some misunderstanding in the two previous posts, I read earlier on in the thread that the ETS EC 125 has the equivalent power of an 800 watt 150mm ETS EC and that why it has acceptable material removal rate..

No, the ETS125 and the ETS125EC are two very different animals.  It's all in the nomenclature in this thread.  [wink]

Seth

Dang I got side track longer down the thread then. Good to know, I still want the ETS EC 125, too many vertical surface to make working with the RO 90 very comfortable. This on job entails 30 hours of sanding in all so not really enough to warrant buying a new tool, but there will be similar jobs in the not to distant future too.

... the ETS EC 125 has the equivalent power of an 800 watt 150mm ETS EC and that why it has acceptable material removal rate..

I do not believe being brushless doubles the output power, and raised and eye brow when I read that earlier.
I could see it running cooler and gaining 50w. Doubling means that a non-brushed 400W sander would be wasting 200W somewhere if brushless is double.

.. The thing would be hotter than the hubs of heck in no time...

On 230v in Sweden the Mirka is another option.
You get the /5-mm stroke or the /2.5-mm (I opted for 5-mm).
And you can use either 125 or 150 with the combo kit.
In the US the ETS EC can make more sense, but in 230v it is conceptually easier to justify picking a Mirka.

Don't which is lightest, but both are way less than a Rotex for ceiling or wall work,

 

[Scott B.]

Here is a short sander guide I put together recently for painters. Helpful info for regular folks as well.
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/03/which-festool-sander/

 

[leakyroof]

Here is a short sander guide I put together recently for painters. Helpful info for regular folks as well.
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/03/which-festool-sander/

. Well Done- one of the best concise explanations of the Festool Sanding Line that I've ever read.  Seriously, we should make this a Sticky at the top of the Tool page for the new or curious to Festool.... [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

 

[Scott B.]

Here is a short sander guide I put together recently for painters. Helpful info for regular folks as well.
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/03/which-festool-sander/

. Well Done- one of the best concise explanations of the Festool Sanding Line that I've ever read.  Seriously, we should make this a Sticky at the top of the Tool page for the new or curious to Festool.... [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

Aww schucks... [big grin]

Hope it helps everyone who is trying to get their heads around the sanders.

 

[antss]

That's a great treatise Scott.

I agree it should be a sticky.

Seth , whatcha think ?  You've even linked to it in another post this week.

 

[semenza]

That's a great treatise Scott.

I agree it should be a sticky.

Seth , whatcha think ?  You've even linked to it in another post this week.

Couple hours ahead of you on the sticky  [wink]

Seth