Router JIG SETUP

[jmbfestool]

I am thinking of buying

Work Template Set 3

This pack includes:
Corner connection template
MFS-VP 1000
MFS-VP 200
3 bolts
Reversible blade groove cutter HW shank 12 mm HW S12 D14/45 WM
Reversible blade HM-WP 50x5.4x1.1

AND

Routing template MFS 700

For all routers with copying ring, for rectangular (max. 600 x 300 mm) or curved (max diameter 1200 mm) cut outs, 2 angle stops, tilt protection, circle routing insert and operation tool.

AND MAYBE but not sure if it would come in handy alot.  

Festool Router Carriage ( Maybe for routing large amount out in the middle where the MFS wont support the router?!??!?!?!?)

I have found a Topic on here about the Work Template Set 3  but its just a link to a website shop and so doesnt help me if this is any good.

I havent seen many people talk about this Worktop template nor has festool made much effort to get it know with curtain promotions.  Makes me think is it any good at all.  I would like to know if any one owns one of these and is it worth it. I have used loads of normal worktop jigs  mainly all the Trend Range with plastic stops and metal stops.( I think Metal are better when I look at the plastic they are often slightly bent out.)

I rather stick with festool because I like festool and also because I am buying the MFS with this kit is it will work together right?!?!? because the Template Set 3 comes with the MFS-VP 1000 and MFS-VP 200 these are the same rails as the MFS kit arent they?!?!? Do you get two 1000 and two 200?!?!? Do you get all the screws and bits and pieces to joing it together to make a separate MFS so in theory I will have a  1000 by 200 MFS and because I bought the MFS 700 with it I will have that one aswell. Is this correct?!?!?

Because all it says is what you can read above so does this kit actually include the router female/male and bolt template cut out?? because it only says it comes with:

Corner connection template
MFS-VP 1000
MFS-VP 200
3 bolts
Reversible blade groove cutter HW shank 12 mm HW S12 D14/45 WM
Reversible blade HM-WP 50x5.4x1.1

Its going to cost me 600 pounds Incl Vat for the Work Template Set 3 and MFS 700  so I would like to know all about it!! lol As much as possible LOADS AN LOADS!!! Pictures are always best I can easily be confused with words

THANK YOU in Advance!

 

[peter halle]

JMB,

Please send me a PM with the link to the discussion so that I can try to figure out why it was locked.

Thanks,

Peter

 

[jonny round boy]

JMB,

The template includes the male/female template and 2x adjustable dog-bolt templates. It does include one MFS profile, but only one 1000 rail (not a pair) AFAIK. Never seen any mention of a 200 rail, but I may be wrong on that.

Having said that, I've only ever seen the base unit, whereas you describe a 'set' including cutters. This may have more in it.

I would suggest that if you want one, you should find somewhere that has one in stock so that you can see exactly what is included. Even if it means a bit of a drive it would be worth it I think.

 

[windmill man]

Hi JMB.
Festool Worktop Jig Is The dogs dangley bits.  Its Very quick and easy to use. Dont buy the router cutter as its stupid money and the inserts are expensive. Get the cutter from Wealdon Tool Co.  Buy the basic set 1000mm rail, template and two dog bolt templates.Then the Mfs 700 and your sorted. Got loads of photos of it in use as i was going to do a review if i can find the time.
John

 

[jmbfestool]

Thank you very much!  I have already ordered the Top Set 3 with the cutter put included. your pictures show it better. Like how thick the template is and you can see it in more detail.  I noticed you have 3 bolt templates  does it come with 3 I thought it only come with 2

I wanted to do a review about the templates as well!  And the cordless Carvex in more detail  and the Kapex-UG stand I will properly do it over the weekend. I don't type much though  so only be alot of photos and Videos!!!

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB,

The template includes the male/female template and 2x adjustable dog-bolt templates. It does include one MFS profile, but only one 1000 rail (not a pair) AFAIK. Never seen any mention of a 200 rail, but I may be wrong on that.

Having said that, I've only ever seen the base unit, whereas you describe a 'set' including cutters. This may have more in it.

I would suggest that if you want one, you should find somewhere that has one in stock so that you can see exactly what is included. Even if it means a bit of a drive it would be worth it I think.

Yeah I asked the guy and he said it comes with 2  1000 rails and  2 200 rails and all the bits to connect them together apparently. All good!!!

 

[harry_]

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is this used for, joining counter tops?

 

[Rob-GB]

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is this used for, joining counter tops?

Yes.
It is the neatest way to join postformed laminated and timber counter tops (worktops in the uk).
The curve of the mitre part allows a bit of tolerance when cutting the male part of the join to allow for out of square walls.

This Festool page explains the way it works http://www.festool.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Catalog/Kat_2005/portal_multimedia_download/gb/p2010_awb534_gb_ie_imp.pdf

Rob.

 

[jmbfestool]

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is this used for, joining counter tops?

Yes!  Its just like the TREND jigs just  has less material around the male/female jig section but has rails and other bits to make up for the missing material around it lol So just like a really posh worktop jig.

 

[Nigel]

            I looked at the link[thanks Rob] but found it confusing and complicated.Has anyone a simpler description of this process?Maybe I need to read the link a few times.....

 

[jmbfestool]

It looks like you can slide the jig along while still being clamped which makes it seem more complex!  Just look at it as a normal Trend Jig.  You place some pins in the holes required for the specific job. Push it up to the worktop and clap it down. The brilliant thing I have noticed about this jig is like all festool rails you can clamp from underneath so the clamps are always out of the way. Unlike Trend Jigs you camp it down and sometimes your router hits the clamps. This jig doesn't have many holes so you wont get confused easily. Unlike some trends jig have LOADS! Also some are numbered instead of having measurements (eg. worktop size 600 620........) which I think is rubbish because you have to understand you own jig instead of using common sense.

Well when I get mine through the post ill will have a play with it!!

 

[Rob-GB]

JMB My current jig is an old Trend one that cost around 250 GBP back in the early 90's and it clamps from beneath with its own clamps.
It was the dogs watsits when I got it and still performs well. But have recently been thinking about the Festool one as it looks easier and quicker to set up.

Rob.

 

[windmill man]

Hi everyone,

Got the festool jig as i wore out a trend oen insde two years . (i do cut a lot of worktop.) Its simpler to use and you can do more with this jig than any other on the market ie put a double post form into a straight run. I have three dog bone templates on mine as it saves time. Got the third as an extra. I am posting some of the shots i took for the review that i was thinking of doing. got lots more if any one has any questions i will try and help.

john

 

[AlexThePalex]

Maybe a dumb question, but for what exactly is this jig meant? I see lot of interesting photos but it's purpose yet remains unclear to me.

 

[tbellemare]

It looks like it's for miter corners, which is a way to make counter top corners virtually disappear without wasting material.

I think that's what I'm seeing???

Tom

 

[Guy Ashley]

It is for jointing kitchen worktops together, the jig is used with the router to cut a very clean and accurate line so that the joint is neat and the "dog bones" are threaded bolt connectors put into recesses underneath and tightened to draw the joint together. 

Hope this isn't lost in translation!! [big grin]

 

[windmill man]

Hi Alex,
This jig is used for joining post form laminate kitchen worktops. most worktop ar of this type in the uk.

Regards John

 

[jonny round boy]

John,

You really need to write a full review of this - firstly, it'd be a great item to review as not a lot of people use it & it deserves to be far more popular than it is; and secondly for the contest. I've learned a lot about this jig just from the pictures alone.

One thing though - what happened here?

[attachthumb=#]

[blink]

Did you get a bit carried away with the router, perhaps? [embarassed] Or is there a more innocent explanation?

 

[jmbfestool]

Maybe a dumb question, but for what exactly is this jig meant? I see lot of interesting photos but it's purpose yet remains unclear to me.

Have you really not seen a work top jig?!?!?  How do you in Holland do worktops?!?!?!  I would like to know how they do it.  When we Lived in Holland we had a granite work top so you dont use this type of jig to do this well in England you dont so dont think NEDERLANDERS DO!

 

[jmbfestool]

It looks like it's for miter corners, which is a way to make counter top corners virtually disappear without wasting material.

I think that's what I'm seeing???

Tom

Same question I asked the Dutchie! How do you do it in Texas?!?!!?  I thought this was the world wide way of joining work tops.  I would like to know how its done overseas!