Router Weights

Birdhunter

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I have the Festool 1010 router and 4 or 5 DeWalt routers of various sizes. I plan to sell all but one of the DeWalts and buy either the Festool 1400 or the 2200. The Festool is specified at 17 pounds and the 1400 at 10.  To me, 17 pounds sounds like way too much for a freehand router. Opinions?
 
The router is resting on the wood, wax the base to decrease the friction if you want. It's not a big deal. A #8 jointer plane weighs 10lbs and you have to move it back and forth constantly.

Normally heavier is better as it reduces vibration,  and makes the router easier to control, particularly with larger bits.

 
The 2200 is a beast and the weight fits it well.  Some people have called it a hand held shaper.  Smooth....  But honestly I don't think for everyone depending on their intended usage.

Many here have said the perfect combo of Festool routers is the 1010 and the 2200.  Personally I think that the 1010 and the 1400 will fulfill most needs, but that is just me.

Peter

 
The 2200 does weigh a lot, but honestly it does not feel like it -- it is so well balanced and smooth that it glides along the surface.  It is my favorite hand power tool and is probably one of the best power tools ever made.  I am one of those that think that the 1010 and 2200 is the perfect combination -- the 1010 does a lot of the lighter duty tasks and the 2200 can swing anything you throw at it and this combination covers all of my hand-held router needs.  I think that there is more overlap with the 1010 and 1400, although you can use your 1/2 shank bits with the 1400.  Nothing wrong with any of the choices as they are all great routers. 

Scot
 
Peter Halle said:
The 2200 is a beast and the weight fits it well.  Some people have called it a hand held shaper.  Smooth....  But honestly I don't think for everyone depending on their intended usage.

Many here have said the perfect combo of Festool routers is the 1010 and the 2200.  Personally I think that the 1010 and the 1400 will fulfill most needs, but that is just me.

Peter

Concur!  The 2200 is a serious workhorse, especially for hardwoods and raised panels, and not to be used with 1/4" shank bits.  The 1010 is great for use with the LR32 system.  The 1400 is an all-around router that bridges the gap well.  I'll have to admit being initially somewhat intimidated by the 2200's weight and power, but it has such finesse that one quickly loses the intimidation.  I really appreciate its controllability, but recognize that it's just not right for all applications.

[smile]
 
Willy,

I think that you have been to the Advanced Router class (?).  I have to admit that when it came time to do the round over using the huge bit I remembered an old thread about some members here seeing that for the first time.  When Steve did the demo, I made sure that there was something sacrificial in front of me - sorry Dan!.

Peter
 
Sparktrician said:
Peter Halle said:
The 2200 is a beast and the weight fits it well.  Some people have called it a hand held shaper.  Smooth....  But honestly I don't think for everyone depending on their intended usage.

Many here have said the perfect combo of Festool routers is the 1010 and the 2200.  Personally I think that the 1010 and the 1400 will fulfill most needs, but that is just me.

Peter

Concur!  The 2200 is a serious workhorse, especially for hardwoods and raised panels, and not to be used with 1/4" shank bits.  The 1010 is great for use with the LR32 system.  The 1400 is an all-around router that bridges the gap well.  I'll have to admit being initially somewhat intimidated by the 2200's weight and power, but it has such finesse that one quickly loses the intimidation.  I really appreciate its controllability, but recognize that it's just not right for all applications.

[smile]

I couldn't agree more.  The 1400 (along with the 1010) is a perfect size for +95% of hand held routing requirements.  The need for greater power is also better suited to router table setups using large Porter-Cable or Milwaukee motors with router lifts.  
If you intend to run very large custom router bits (hand held) such as Roger Savatteri did on this 5'x11' dining table the 2200 is perfect for the job.  Those fall into the
 
My own "take" on router weight is based upon my experience with hand operated routers going back to 1946. IIRC my first PC router had a 350 watt motor and weighed close to 18 pounds. It did not plunge, put the height adjustment was similar in concept to typical routers sold in the USA until Festool came along.

I am not sure when the standard was introduced, after which most popular non-trim routers had motor housings of identical diameter. I also cannot remember when I bought my first 1000 watt router, but I owned it for 20+ years and it weighed about 18 pounds. IIRC that was my first router with a 1/2" collet.

Not long after I opened my first custom cabinet shop in Pasadena in 1962, to supplement my pair of shapers, I bought a router table with a pioneer lifter. That accepted all the standard diameter router motor housings. As available routers became more powerful, I kept using those in my table. Over the years I increased the number of router tables and sold one of the shapers. I admit I do not remember when I purchased my first PC 7518, but I have bought a heck of a lot more of them over the years.

In late 2005, a couple of months before I bought my first Festool TS55 with a CT22, I still owned a total of 12 routers, 6 of then PC 7518. Like the majority of tools and machines I had not sold with that shop in 1998, all but one of the PC 7518 were in a storage unit, In my condo I had the PC 7518, an inexpensive 7 1/4" circular saw, a couple of electric drills, a dry wall screw driver and a bunch of hand tools.

Less than a month after I bought my TS55, I bought an OF1010, with the LR32 accessory kit and both a 1040mm and 2424mm "Holy Rails" Let me tell you that system was so much easier to use than typical 25 drill line boring machines. I could not believe the ease of handling the OF1010, so I bought a second one just for routing. I broke out cases of bits with 1/4" shanks and had as many as could be salvaged sharpened by my favorite vendor.

My only issue with the OF1010 as a router using a larger 1/4" shank bit is that I am used to more mass in the router. I kept on using conventional PC7518 on non plunge bases when I needed more power or mass than the OF1010. Eventually I tried an OF2200 at my dealer's show room. I am not clear how long the OF2200 had been on the market, and if the year was then 2007. I do know that the day I first tried an OF2200, I bought one. By then all my trusted 1/2" shank bits had been sharpened. After I had been using my OF2200 a few days, hardly needing most of its power, I started returning the non-Festool routers to storage. When the OF1400 came along and also the MFK700, I bought one of each, with accessories.

It is no secret that I hardly ever use my OF1400, but I will not sell it. When the bit will not fit in an OF1010, I use an OF2200. For trimming I use an MFK700, and by now I own several of them.

I like the handling of the MFK700 when it must hang off the work. They stay set a long time.

Sometimes a task requires a massive router to reduce vibration, and non are better than the OF2200. For drilling LR32 holes, even 35mm and 20mm hinge cup holes, I prefer my of1010s. For trimming edges, I use my MFK700s. This does not leave a lot of tasks I need to perform best done by the OF1400. However, if I could only have one router, probably it will be an OF1400.

Currently besides my Felder tilting arbor shaper with a power feed, my shop is equipped with 6 other router tables, 4 Woodpecker and 2 miscellaneous. All of my current router tables use PC 7518. The cabinet makers working for me all have years of experience with PC 7518s and are pleased with the results using the Woodpecker tables and lifts. None of us have a problem with the mass of the OF2200.
 
The weight is a good thing. Less vibration, and more control--especially with large bits. The weight is necessitated by the router's power, which is considerable. In use, this means fewer passes, and therefore shorter periods of concentrations, which add up to less fatigue.
 
I ended up buying the 1400 to compliment my 1010. My guess is that, within a few days, I'll go back and buy the 2200.
 
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