Sanders??????

Jackoman

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I have been looking at the sanders.

I need some help. I build cabinets and custom furniture. What sander or sanders should I get?
 
Considering the crowd in this place, "all of them" will be the answer and the eventual outcome. :)
 
The ETS 150/3 is my favorite sander.  I also have the RO 90 and 150, but the ETS is my favorite.  Easy to use and smooth.  The RO are tougher to control IMO.
 
I build furniture and cabinets as well and my favorite is the ETS 150/3.  I also have the RO 90 which I use a lot and If I had some spare money, I would buy the RO 150 but, I think I'm going to get the new XL Domino Joiner first to compliment my current smaller Domino Joiner.
 
i would get (i) RS2, (ii) Mirka Ceros 6 inch and (iii) DTS... If you work in a shop, I would avoid the Rotex... far more difficult to tame for finish sanders and much cheaper ways to achieve a circle motion...
 
depending on what you're looking for? Hand tools and grinding?
I work as a hand sander and sanding JET 16 32 plus and tune in to the largest grinding JET
 
I think that the RS2E is a must for any furniture as it excels at large surfaces ensuring a flat surface.  An ETS 150 (either 3 or 5) would be a great choice and the RO90 and DTS400 for details, face-frames and getting into corners.  I like my Rotex and use it for preliminary sanding and smoothing glue joints and for me, this is a must-have tool too.

Scot
 
ScotF said:
I think that the RS2E is a must for any furniture as it excels at large surfaces ensuring a flat surface.  An ETS 150 (either 3 or 5) would be a great choice and the RO90 and DTS400 for details, face-frames and getting into corners.  I like my Rotex and use it for preliminary sanding and smoothing glue joints and for me, this is a must-have tool too.

Scot
agree. ROTEX probably a very good car! but very expensive .. I use the same principle, only a bo Makita 6040.
I have already destroyed a Makita and already tuned to the RO 150 (in the hope that it will last me forever) [smile]
but it happened on Saturday .. I started calling Dealers Festool .. silence
went to the store and bought a Makita.
probably not the fate .. [big grin]
 
Rembo said:
agree. ROTEX probably a very good car! but very expensive .. I use the same principle, only a bo Makita 6040.
I have already destroyed a Makita and already tuned to the RO 150 (in the hope that it will last me forever) [smile]
but it happened on Saturday .. I started calling Dealers Festool .. silence
went to the store and bought a Makita.
probably not the fate .. [big grin]

Have you tried the Bosch 1250DEVS?
 
Jackoman said:
150 3 or 150 5. 
What is the big difference between these two?

3mm vs 5mm stroke, otherwise it's the same sander.  I use the 150/3 and getting rid of planer ripples (dull knives) only takes a few passes with 125 grit paper.
 
I have the RO150, RO90, and the ETS150/3 and it seams to be a good combination.
 
The theory is that if you choose to get the RO 150 for more aggressive sanding then the ETS 150/3 is the perfect choice.
 
I assume that you already own quite a few sanders, likely in the 5-6" range.

I would suggest for your first Festool sander you TRY the RO 90 for 30 days ( [thumbs up] Fes has an outstanding testdrive mindset)  with the intent of taking it back if it dosn't blow you away.  I then suggest you save an additional $200 for the purchase of a full line of abrasives that you will be buying roughly 5-10 working days later  [big grin].  There are other sanders that are in the same general class of the RO  150 and the ETS models,  but there is nothing else that does ALL the RO90 does in one package.    I own the RO 150 and the ETS150/3 as well as the RO90.
 
I think I am going to get the RO 90 and the RO 150 FEQ.

I hope these 2 do not overlap in there fuctions?

Might as well dive in and get the 1400 router as well [tongue]
 
The best sanding tool from Festool is actually their dust collectors - the variable vacuum CT range makes the difference with all of their sanders.

Using the right quality and grade of paper with the jet stream hole pattern on either of the ETS150 sanders will allow you to appreciate the difference (while making sure you've got the amount of suction you're using just right - you don't need it always cranked to full).

The optional pads for the ETS range give you extra flexibility.

The DTS400 is a great delta combo and the RO90 with its delta head and slat extension option give you great flexibility.

The RO150 is a beast for removing material, through to a great machine for polishing.

The LS130 is Festool's Odd Job sander - the one you probably need when you've got a lot of sanding and no normal sander fits the bill (I haven't got one of these yet - I'm just itching to find the need).

The RS200 (RS2E in NA) is a nice option if you don't like te idea of an ETS150+hard pad for large flat areas.

You don't NEED to spend money on Festool sanders - Bosch and others (Rupes, Mirka, etc) make useful sanders and some do almost as good a job for a lot less money ... investing in Festool will probably pay off in the long run - that's my assumption and reasoning anyway.

 
It really depends on what you do the most of but I think the RO 150, RO 90 & the ETS 150 3 are a good selection.
The RO 150 removes mill marks on large surfaces very fast & in orbital mode gives a finish that is good enough for most purposes.
The ETS 150-3 takes the surface to the next level & if you are using a dark stain on hard woods it will show less orbital marks.
The RO-90 is the perfect tool for face frames edges & a lot of other things you can't do with the big sanders.

But if money is no concern then, ya get em all [eek]

Gerry
 
andvari said:
Rembo said:
agree. ROTEX probably a very good car! but very expensive .. I use the same principle, only a bo Makita 6040.
I have already destroyed a Makita and already tuned to the RO 150 (in the hope that it will last me forever) [smile]
but it happened on Saturday .. I started calling Dealers Festool .. silence
went to the store and bought a Makita.
probably not the fate .. [big grin]

Have you tried the Bosch 1250DEVS?
after I have a hardship GOF 2000 CE, I have sworn never to do not buy Bosch.
 
Jackoman said:
I think I am going to get the RO 90 and the RO 150 FEQ.

I hope these 2 do not overlap in there fuctions?

I don't have a RO 90 so i can't really tell how useful it is in your case, but i would guess that the round pad operations of it are totally overlapped by the RO150, and the delta pad operations of the '90 in my eyes have little use in proper furniture making. Ok it can get into corners and such, but those should have been sanded before they became corners, then a delta pad is handy for sanding in between finish coats, but the unbalanced shape of the RO90 tells me it is not at all designed for delicate work, but rather for stripping paint in tight spots.

The best delta sander Festool offers for furniture/cabinet making is the DTS400, the best general sander for furniture making is no doubt the ETS 150's. The RO sanders can do anything, but i use mine only when i have to. I certainly wouldn't want to use them solely, their power and aggressiveness doesn't weigh in enough on the balance against them being noisy, hard to control and unbalanced.
 
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