Saw and router purchases

[dave tinley]

I am going to purchase the ts55 saw and the of1400 router very shortly. As I understand the ts55 comes with a guide rail. I would like to use
the of1400 with the guide rail also.

What will I need to purchase to be able to use the of1400 with the guide rails?

Thanks
Dave

 

[Bob Marino]

Dave,

You would need the Guide stop #492-601 and a pair of clamps, either the FSZ's or the Quick Clamps, are strongly suggested to prevent the rail from moving while routing.

Bob

 

[dave tinley]

thanks bob-
I appreciate the info.
I thought one of the advantages of the guide rail system is that you can use it without clamps ??????
Or is that only when using the saw ???

Thanks again
Dave

 

[Eli]

You can use it without clamps. Also, the guide rail is not *necessarily* included in the purchase of a TS55, unless they're running a deal at the time

 

[Dan Clark]

thanks bob-
I appreciate the info.
I thought one of the advantages of the guide rail system is that you can use it without clamps ??????
Or is that only when using the saw ???

Thanks again
Dave

Dave,

When you're using one of the saws, the weight of saw keeps the rail from moving.  When using a router, the weight is off to the side.  That's why clamps are needed.

Dan.

 

[Eli]

oops guilty of my biggest pet peeve, didn't read carefully. What they said re: the clamps.

 

[Tinker]

No matter, you would be wise to get two rails, one for each toy.  If you are only working with cuts of 48" or less, one 55" rail will do.  There will be times, I am sure, that you will want a longer rail, or two together. 

if you go the two together for longer cuts get a couple of guide rail connectors. I'm sorry, but i cannot find a part number for those connectors.  they are shown in my catalogue, but do not show as an available part with a number.  Perhaps somebody else will come up with it.

Tinker

 

[Daviddubya]

... Also, the guide rail is not *necessarily* included in the purchase of a TS55, unless they're running a deal at the time

Ummmm - I have not seen the TS or older ATF saws without one 55" guide rail in the basic package.  At least in the USA that's how it has been sold for the last several years.

In reply to Tinker, the Connector is 482107, and you need to buy two.  Why Festool does not package them as a pair is the question of the day!

 

[greg mann]

David,

For anyone with older rails 2 might be 1 too many.

 

[Eli]

... Also, the guide rail is not *necessarily* included in the purchase of a TS55, unless they're running a deal at the time.

Ummmm - I have not seen the TS or older ATF saws without one 55" guide rail in the basic package.  At least in the USA that's how it has been sold for the last several years.

Here they sell it with/without the systainer and with/without the rail. Apologies. I hate that you made me check. Now I know that a bare saw in AU is twice the price of a basic TS55 package in US. (head slap!) :'(

 

[Daviddubya]

David,

For anyone with older rails 2 might be 1 too many.

Greg - Of course, you are correct.  And now I know why they are not packaged as a pair.  I'm obviously a new rail guy.  Smile.

Tinker - Many things are different and better in AU.

 

[dave tinley]

... Also, the guide rail is not *necessarily* included in the purchase of a TS55, unless they're running a deal at the time.

Ummmm - I have not seen the TS or older ATF saws without one 55" guide rail in the basic package.  At least in the USA that's how it has been sold for the last several years.

Here they sell it with/without the systainer and with/without the rail. Apologies. I hate that you made me check. Now I know that a bare saw in AU is twice the price of a basic TS55 package in US. (head slap!) :'(

I wish they would sell festool products here with a choice of with or without the systainer.
They just gather dust in my shop.

thanks for all the replies

Dave

 

[enderw88]

I wish they would sell festool products here with a choice of with or without the systainer.
They just gather dust in my shop.

thanks for all the replies

Dave

I would be happy to help you free up the space in your shop!

 

[rodwolfy]

[/quote]

I wish they would sell festool products here with a choice of with or without the systainer.
They just gather dust in my shop.

thanks for all the replies

Dave

[/quote]

I'll take them! Or, you could do like some of the others around here and use them to sort screws or other shop items. Or, like someone on ebay and sell the systainer by itself...

Rod

 

[martingchapman]

Dave,
Ask your dealer if they would give you an allowance on the systainer and sell you the tool without it.
I have the same problem, a small workshop and no use for the systainers.
I bought several Festool items from my dealer and each time he kept the systainer and gave me an allowance which was the equivalent of the cost of the systainer to him, were he to buy one in specially.
Now of course I don't know what this cost is but I trust him not to rip me off and at the very least I am getting a discount on the tool (which is as rare as rocking horse droppings) and I am not filling up my workshop with redundant systainers.

For info, if you are in the UK my dealer is Jaycee Tools and the man to speak to is Andrew Chapman (no relation and no connection other than a very satisfied customer).

Martin.

 

[CharlesWilson]

Or, of course, you could offer them for sale in the classified ads section.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

thanks bob-
I appreciate the info.
I thought one of the advantages of the guide rail system is that you can use it without clamps ??????
Or is that only when using the saw ???

Thanks again
Dave

Dave,

When you're using one of the saws, the weight of saw keeps the rail from moving.  When using a router, the weight is off to the side.   That's why clamps are needed.

Dan.

The saw generates mostly fore and aft directed forces whereas the router will generate considerably higher side forces that tend to pull or push the guide rail sideways during routing.  One of the advantages of using a router with the guide rail and the Festool guide stops (follower that straddles the raised rib on the guide rail) is that such side forces won't cause the router to "walk away" from the guide rail during routing of a dado.  That is a definite issue when using a router freehand with a simple straight edge.  I frequently do not clamp my guide rail to the work piece when sawing, but I always do when routing.

Dave R.

 

[dave tinley]

Thanks dave, I appreciate the info.

martin-
I did check with a sales rep and here in the states they have to sell the item with the systainer.
Must be a brother-in law deal  ;D

Dave