Sawtainer

That's friggin awesome!! If it all lines up and cuts dead square then I'm well impressed!!!

Well done sir! [thumbs up]
 
I have been watching all your videos as you posted them. I love your ideas and how you impliment them! Thanks for sharing the process!!

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overanalyze said:
I have been watching all your videos as you posted them. I love your ideas and how you impliment them! Thanks for sharing the process!!

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Nice to hear about it! Welcome!
 
mrB said:
That's friggin awesome!! If it all lines up and cuts dead square then I'm well impressed!!!

Well done sir! [thumbs up]

Thank you!
 
Interesting, Festool has saw unit of Precisio.

Is it possible to insert this unit in systainer with its size?
 
I like it.  As somebody else mentioned, knobs you only have to loosen and tighten instead of screws and bolts you put into your pockets might be an improvement.  For me, my pockets are always full of small tools.  Dropping screws and bolts into my pockets is like throwing them away. 

How does the saw do when ripping longer boards?  There seems to be some concerns about the short rip fence.  I have watched carpenters using DW portables an some other small table saws ripping very long lumber with fences that are really not much longer that yours.  I have a small DW, but I don't have room in my shop for ripping boards much longer than about 3 or 4 feet (approximately 90 to 120 centimeters). For long rips, I use my TS 55.  I would like to see another vid after you have had a chance to play around with your changes and improvements. 

Somebody mentioned they have seen other videos of your ideas.  I will watch for more of them from now on.
Tinker
 
Tinker said:
I like it.  As somebody else mentioned, knobs you only have to loosen and tighten instead of screws and bolts you put into your pockets might be an improvement.  For me, my pockets are always full of small tools.  Dropping screws and bolts into my pockets is like throwing them away. 

How does the saw do when ripping longer boards?  There seems to be some concerns about the short rip fence.  I have watched carpenters using DW portables an some other small table saws ripping very long lumber with fences that are really not much longer that yours.  I have a small DW, but I don't have room in my shop for ripping boards much longer than about 3 or 4 feet (approximately 90 to 120 centimeters). For long rips, I use my TS 55.  I would like to see another vid after you have had a chance to play around with your changes and improvements. 

Somebody mentioned they have seen other videos of your ideas.  I will watch for more of them from now on.
Tinker

I agree with your remarks. It is not finished product yet. I was a bit hurried to share this video of raw made project. But on the other hand, I had many valuable advises.

Here is next video of trials:
 
I had to stop watching...

I think what you are demonstrating here is actually dangerous. I would hate it if somebody tried to copy what you are doing and had an accident.

I am not criticising your ingenuity, but I do think what you are doing is quite dangerous regardless of how much care you take. This time you didn't even extend the feet on your base and I could system the setup moving. Not cool [sad]

 
Kev said:
I had to stop watching...

I think what you are demonstrating here is actually dangerous. I would hate it if somebody tried to copy what you are doing and had an accident.

I am not criticising your ingenuity, but I do think what you are doing is quite dangerous regardless of how much care you take. This time you didn't even extend the feet on your base and I could system the setup moving. Not cool [sad]

I saw it shaking when ripping the thicker stock and thought it wouldn't take much of a kickback event to send the whole thing tumbling over. This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.
 
Kev said:
I had to stop watching...

I think what you are demonstrating here is actually dangerous. I would hate it if somebody tried to copy what you are doing and had an accident.

I am not criticising your ingenuity, but I do think what you are doing is quite dangerous regardless of how much care you take. This time you didn't even extend the feet on your base and I could system the setup moving. Not cool [sad]

This time I forget expand legs because really I use it in this condition - "only one console expanded" in my garage. Fully expanded legs protruded to much
 
bobfog said:
I saw it shaking when ripping the thicker stock

Yes, this construction hasn't so much stability as cast-iron body of stationary shop saw. Really I took this blade firstly for this trial. Usually I work with 190mm. It enough for my garage needs.
 
bobfog said:
This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.

Really? Name one small saw with a true sliding table.
 
Svar said:
bobfog said:
This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.

Really? Name one small saw with a true sliding table.

Bosch GTS 10 XC
 
bobfog said:
Svar said:
bobfog said:
This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.

Really? Name one small saw with a true sliding table.

Bosch GTS 10 XC
That one, CMS table, Ryobi bt3000 etc. are just tricked up miter gauges. None of them goes right next to the blade. If you ever used true slider you'll now the huge advantage.
 
Svar said:
bobfog said:
Svar said:
bobfog said:
This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.

Really? Name one small saw with a true sliding table.

Bosch GTS 10 XC
That one, CMS table, Ryobi bt3000 etc. are just tricked up miter gauges. None of them goes right next to the blade. If you ever used true slider you'll now the huge advantage.

Well I'll take the compromise and keep my fingers vs the "Sawtainer".
 
I think this guy is great and the patience and ingenuity to build something like this shouldn't be under estimated. It does look dangerous though by UK standards and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that there is no guard on the blade.

However it is filmed in Ukraine and I'm guessing that they're not quite so obsessed with health and safety as the Brits and Yanks. It should perhaps be critiqued in that context. I would happily go back to the days where there was no culture of "where there's blame, there's a claim". The price to pay for that though would be the odd finger or two and maybe worse.
 
andy5405 said:
I think this guy is great and the patience and ingenuity to build something like this shouldn't be under estimated. It does look dangerous though by UK standards and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that there is no guard on the blade.

However it is filmed in Ukraine and I'm guessing that they're not quite so obsessed with health and safety as the Brits and Yanks. It should perhaps be critiqued in that context. I would happily go back to the days where there was no culture of "where there's blame, there's a claim". The price to pay for that might be the odd finger or two.

I agree. Riving knife or splitter with blade guard should be added. With those sawtainer would be no different than any other small saw on a folding stand. BTW, sliding table IS a safety feature.
 
Svar said:
bobfog said:
Svar said:
bobfog said:
This whole idea really is fixing something that ain't broken, given the number of small saw options available on the market.

Really? Name one small saw with a true sliding table.

Bosch GTS 10 XC
That one, CMS table, Ryobi bt3000 etc. are just tricked up miter gauges. None of them goes right next to the blade. If you ever used true slider you'll now the huge advantage.

I fully agreed. Such kind of miter guide very valuable for me.

This my saw it is a light and portable version of this conception:
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andy5405 said:
I think this guy is great and the patience and ingenuity to build something like this shouldn't be under estimated. It does look dangerous though by UK standards and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that there is no guard on the blade.

Yes, you are right, it is just first trials. I plan to insert dividing knife and mount upper intake of dust collection, which will serve as a guard also.

Thank you for your opinion
 
mirock said:
andy5405 said:
I think this guy is great and the patience and ingenuity to build something like this shouldn't be under estimated. It does look dangerous though by UK standards and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that there is no guard on the blade.

Yes, you are right, it is just first trials. I plan to insert dividing knife and mount upper intake of dust collection, which will serve as a guard also.

Thank you for your opinion

Don't be put off by any of the negative comments and do keep developing your idea. Do add some safety features though ASAP. We're not even allowed to sneeze in the UK without writing a full method statement and risk assessment before we do it.
 
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