Senco Fusion hits UK

joiner1970

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Anyone had a chance to try one of these nailguns out yet ? Spoke to Senco UK and apparently they are here at last but from what he said they are around £500  [eek] [eek] [eek] just for a 15 guage nailer well over priced i said but they seem to think they are worth it  ::)
 
Senco rep told me not to buy one give it at least 1-2 years and wait till the 16Gauge comes out aswell the prices will drop by half he said.

I had a feel and look at one I properly would buy one maybe im waiting like he told me to!   

I currently own the Dewalt second fix and paslode first fix.

I dont like the Dewalt heavy and jams up some times. The paslode first fix is fine  but I have used 8 new second fix paslodes my mate bought a new one and they all miss fired all the time dont work for no reason they all did it. I have used 12 second fix and 8 of them new! The other 4 man you could tell they where not looked after. The I got to keep 1 new one with me for 2 years I serviced after every gas replacement but still miss fires. 

Miss firing is
1. Annoying!
2. Waists gas
3. You end up with loads of nails and no gas.

So I am hoping this Senco will solve the gas/miss firing problem paslode has with their second fix. The first fix is not so bad for miss firing. I have used 6 of them and they have been okay.  Apart from these other two we had one had a chamber problem and the other a chip. I found that out as I swaped the parts over on both nail guns and they both did not work I got a new one and swapped it round and one bit worked on one but the other bit didnt and same with the other.

Senco did tell me they are developing a First fix gun as well they said they can not see why they can not just increase the size of the compressed container to nail larger nails in

JMB
 
sounds like a good rep  [laughing]

the one who messaged me was justifying the price by saying it was 30 % lighter than the dewalt and had li-ion batteries but theres not a lot wrong with the dewalt nailers in my eye so i would say to compete they need to be cheaper not dearer
 
Sorry I edited my post! above!

Yea it felt lighter than the dewalt but it still felt big in size the paslode second fix is smaller. 

Yeah he was a nice rep was saying few things about senco the company its self.  Then I was asking questions about the nail gun and he said well its a lot of money at the moment if I was you I would wait few years will be bringing out the 16gauge which will be the next big competitor against dewalt and paslode 16gauge and this will drop the prices down.  I was thinking are you actually trying to sell this gun to me or not lol.

He told me one thing I found interesting!  He asked me if I knew anything about it!  He was told by some one they could not go on site with a Dewalt nail gun as it has sequential mode which is dangerous apparently

JMB
 
joiner1970 said:
sounds like a good rep  [laughing]

they one who messaged me was justifying the price by saying it was 30 % lighter than the dewalt and had li-ion batteries but theres not a lot wrong with the dewalt nailers in my eye so i would say to compete they need too be cheaper not dearer

Was he talking about your wallet being 30% lighter [big grin]

Glad to hear you hand is on the mend
 
a subby i do work for uses 1st fix paslodes and yeah they are fine, we use to use the 2nd fix ones too but like you say they are crap so we went over to the dewalt ones which are much more reliable.
 
joiner1970 said:
a subby i do work for uses 1st fix paslodes and yeah they are fine, we use to use the 2nd fix ones too but like you say they are crap so we went over to the dewalt ones which are much more reliable.

Its the same reason I bought the Dewalt.  My mate was thinkin dewalt but he went for paslode he wish he didnt now.  He was thinkin most site we go on have nails and gas already on site so he does not wanna be asking for different nails when he arrives on the job to fit his gun but I told him they much rather buy nails for the dewalt than the paslode as they are half the price and you get an 2500 nails in a box and paslode sell them double the price with two gasses and only 2000 nails 500 extra nails for half the price!  so they will be saving a lot more money.

JMB
 
Wont the nails fit each other ?  I am sure one of my mates was using paslode nails in his de walt
 
woodguy7 said:
Wont the nails fit each other ?  I am sure one of my mates was using paslode nails in his de walt

Well yeah but most people who buy a paslode always buy the straight nail gun  but dewalt only do angled so they wont fit then. Also you need gas to run the paslode so you might as well buy paslode nail pack so you get your two gasses and you never un out of nails before the gas you always end up loads of nails and no gas so you have to either buy another pack or just buy some single gasses more money!!! I tell ya it cost you alot more in the long run these paslode second fix guns.

JMB
 
I don't like them, they don't like the cold or wet.  No use where i live  [big grin]
 
woodguy7 said:
I don't like them, they don't like the cold or wet.  No use where i live  [big grin]

Paslode or dewalt?!

Dewalt are not bad in cold plus normally second fix is inside work.

I had a look around

First just showing you difference between nail prices screwfix are selling.  I know they are a lot but it just showing you difference between the three!

1. Paslode 2nd fix nails   32mm 16g STRAIGHT  2000nails
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/25205/Nails/Galvanised-Nails/Galvanised-Straight-Brads-16ga-32mm-Pack-of-2000

2. Paslode 2nd fix nails  32mm 16g ANGLED  2000nails
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/56783/Nails/Galvanised-Nails/Galvanised-Angled-Brads-16ga-32mm-Pack-of-200

3. Dewalt 2nd fix nail 32mm 16g ANGLED (Dewalt only make angled gun)  2500nails
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/43660/Nails/Galvanised-Nails/DeWalt-32mm-Angled-Nails-Galvanised-16ga-Pack-of-2500

Axminster is cheap for the Dewalt nails though but I was just showing the price difference on one web site. I know you can look around for deals and bundles and some sites sell one sort cheaper than the other depending on how many they are selling.  
http://www.axminster.co.uk/16-gauge-nails-for-dewalt-dc618kbv-cordless-nail-gun--boxes-2500-prod822327/

Looking at the price difference between the paslode angled it cleary tells you that most people who buy a paslode 2nd fix always buy the straight!   And not being funny I dont think its because they think oh its what I need why do I need an angled one its the price straight guns are cheaper than angled so basically they are being cheapos!  

I think site should have angled I hated using straight very annoying often could not get quite in to the corner as its not angled.   I think work shop should have straight because you can use smaller nails with straight I think 12mm?! but defuntly 16mm  but angled smallest you can have is 32mm. but most workshops use air gun so wont need straight.

JMB

 
JMB Dewalt do a straight one as well as the angled the straight one is much cheaper but not as popular as the angled one.
 
joiner1970 said:
JMB Dewalt do a straight one as well as the angled the straight one is much cheaper but not as popular as the angled one.

Oh!  When did they bring out the straight? I have not seen a straight and 2/3 years ago when I was looking at buying a nail gun and bought the dewalt I never came across a dewalt straight nail gun and I looked all over the internet.    Strange how angled is more popular on the dewalt and paslode its straight.

JMB
 
Hi,

Just thought I'd clarify a couple of things that have been said on this.

The 16-gauge tool will be available next summer (2011) in both straight & angled magazines. The next tool to come will be the 18 gauge, with a straight magazine, which should be here in Spring.

I do think the price will settle at about £425 + VAT, as every technology that comes out starts a bit higher & then falls; the first Paslode tool was over £1,000 when it first came out!

This does put it higher than the Paslode, closer to the Dewalt on price.

It is 30% lighter than the Dewalt, & is Li-Ion, but I don't think that's the major benefits. The reduction of moving parts should make it easier to repair, & less likely to break in the first place. The lack of cleaning over the gas tools should save quite a bit over the life of the tool. And the saving on fasteners over the gas tools will be very sizable, as the gas isn't free! This last one isn't so apparent with the 15-gauge, but wait until you see the money you can save on fasteners on the 18 & 16-gauge. The tool won't look as 'expensive' then.

We started out as a pneumatic nailer & stapler company, & in many ways Fusion is just taking the same principle we used when we started in 1947 & taking it onto the next level, a truly cordless pneumatic tool.

However, each to their own. We would never knock the Paslode or Dewalt tools, as they both do what they say on the tin. We think Fusion has some benefits over them, but equally we recognise it won't be for everyone. All I'd say is try it, & see what you think.

SencoDealerMan

 
Oh no!!! he's followed me from the ukworkshop forum [eek] [eek] [laughing] only joking .

Hopefully I will get a chance to try one out soon i emailed Bunnys bolts they have them in stock.
 
Sorry to bring up an old really old tread but has anyone  bought or used there nailers  I am getting a lot more interested in this nailer
 
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