Shaper Origin G2 - Took the plunge

[Cheese]

I do have a nice Woodpeckers shelf pin jig that I've yet to use. It could fill the same need for batching out cabinets. I'm just looking for reasons to justify this expensive CNC tool (toy?) and I'm not doing a good job coming up with reasons to get it. At least not yet.

I don't do a lot of cabinets but the original Woodpecker jig is really nice to use because it's short and fits inside nicely. So, a few extra holes = Woodpeckers jig, a lot of extra holes = some other method.

 

[grobkuschelig]

I think the advantage of the plate for holes comes in when you don’t want to stick to 32mm.
For example for kitchen cabinets for glasses/mugs I prefer a closer spacing to give a better adjustability for „personal glass height“.

I’m excited for it. Mine is targeted to be delivered tomorrow. [emoji1695]

 

[Crazyraceguy]

It does come with the locating pin which would allow you to do it, so for a guy who doesn't do it very often, why not? I'm sure that there are several jigs out there that would be faster, but it's an additional expense. If you already have Origin, it may not be worth the expense of a jig that realistically can't do anything else? Speed is not necessarily the only goal of a hobby woodworker.

 

[Rick Herrick]

I watched the video of the announcement of the G2 (not sure why I hadn't seen it before today) but one nice thing is that at warranty for it has changed from 1 year to 2 year.

Has anyone had a reason to return their G1 for service?  Did it go well?  Cost ?  Just curious.

 

[Gregor]

The alternative is putting tape over all your cabinet sides but that sounds like an awful PITA.

The alternative to your alternative is to take a piece of something thin, straight, flat, durable. put shaper tape on and fix that onto the one cabinet side you currently work on... when done move it to the next workpiece.

Or take a big enough offcut of some board, apply shaper tape and put it next to your workpiece, so it isn't too far away from your operation area and the origin can see it.

Doesn't have to be really aligned with anything, as you reference the origin to the workpiece anyway, you just have to keep the reference surface from moving relative to your workpiece and near enough to the machine to register it precisely.

 

[squall_line]

The alternative is putting tape over all your cabinet sides but that sounds like an awful PITA.

The alternative to your alternative is to take a piece of something thin, straight, flat, durable. put shaper tape on and fix that onto the one cabinet side you currently work on... when done move it to the next workpiece.

Or take a big enough offcut of some board, apply shaper tape and put it next to your workpiece, so it isn't too far away from your operation area and the origin can see it.

Doesn't have to be really aligned with anything, as you reference the origin to the workpiece anyway, you just have to keep the reference surface from moving relative to your workpiece and near enough to the machine to register it precisely.

For that matter, toss some Shaper Tape on some rails in a place where it won't rub when being used as a track?  Position-able AND clamp-able.

 

[Michael Kellough]

The alternative is putting tape over all your cabinet sides but that sounds like an awful PITA.

The alternative to your alternative is to take a piece of something thin, straight, flat, durable. put shaper tape on and fix that onto the one cabinet side you currently work on... when done move it to the next workpiece.

Or take a big enough offcut of some board, apply shaper tape and put it next to your workpiece, so it isn't too far away from your operation area and the origin can see it.

Doesn't have to be really aligned with anything, as you reference the origin to the workpiece anyway, you just have to keep the reference surface from moving relative to your workpiece and near enough to the machine to register it precisely.

For that matter, toss some Shaper Tape on some rails in a place where it won't rub when being used as a track?  Position-able AND clamp-able.

Good idea! Have you tried it?

 

[grobkuschelig]

Has anyone had a reason to return their G1 for service?  Did it go well?  Cost ?  Just curious.

No issues for me, but it’s also not seeing weekly use here. More monthly.

 

[tjbnwi]

I have multiple piece of plywood with Shaper tape on them. I place them on an MFT or other table, butt the piece that needs to be machined against the plywood. Place a stop if you need to do more than one. Works really well.

For shelf pin holes, create any array of holes. Use the center of the first hole to place the array. If you want them 37mm in from the front edge, 80mm from the top that is where you place the first hole. Run down the array for the number of holes you want. Use an 1/8” bit, once you’re over the hole allow the Shaper to do the hole. For the tape I would use one of my pieces of 1/4 ply. I have never had a cosine error from the plywood not being on the same plane.
This can be done with any panel holes you need. If you want slide and hinge plate holes just create a drawing making sure the first hole is their reference.

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I have multiple piece of plywood with Shaper tape on them. I place them on an MFT or other table, butt the piece that needs to be machined against the plywood. Place a stop if you need to do more than one. Works really well.

I have never had a cosine error from the plywood not being on the same plane.
This can be done with any panel holes you need. If you want slide and hinge plate holes just create a drawing making sure the first hole is their reference.

Tom

I do the same thing. I have a couple of pieces of Melamine coated particle board with "permanent" tape on them. I clamp them to my MFT style top and but the work piece up against them as a reference and usually a dog on one side to make it repeatable.
I know "they say" that everything has to be one the same plane, but I don't find that to be an issue. I saw a video on Youtube where the guy was testing it at different offsets. IIRC, he was well over an inch above the plane of the tape and the cuts were unaffected.

 

[Rick Herrick]

Just found out the Plate won't be here for 8-10 weeks.  How do they offer a bundle with 1 piece not available?  Sheesh.  When I placed the order it didn't show that caveat.

 

[DynaGlide]

I have no dog in this but when you go to add it to your cart on their website:

"Origin and Workstation ship in 2-5 business days, Plate ships in 8-10 weeks"

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I imaging they were overwhelmed, which is a good and bad thing at the same time.
Have they said when the actual G2 machines will hit the wild?

 

[woodferret]

I imaging they were overwhelmed, which is a good and bad thing at the same time.
Have they said when the actual G2 machines will hit the wild?

By end of this week or so people in FB group are being told.  Some already are getting their shipping confirmations.

 

[Rick Herrick]

I have no dog in this but when you go to add it to your cart on their website:

"Origin and Workstation ship in 2-5 business days, Plate ships in 8-10 weeks"

Yep, but it didn't say that when I placed the order last week so something has changed in that time frame.

 

[Cheese]

I ordered mine on Sept 16th directly from Shaper Tools.

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[Michael Kellough]

I ordered from Shaper on Sept. 14. Received notice that it shipped on Oct. 28. and it was delivered yesterday.

Carrier is UPS and I received several notices from them. First said it would be delivered Thursday. Next said Friday. Third said the following Monday. Last said Friday again.

Another note is that the UPS notices say the package is from DCL,INC. not Shaper. DCL is the fulfillment center Shaper uses, at least for the Plate.

 

[Cheese]

I ordered from Shaper on Sept. 14. Received notice that it shipped on Oct. 28. and it was delivered yesterday.

Wow...what a difference that only 2 days makes.  [jawdrop]

 

[4nthony]

I ordered from Shaper on Sept. 14. Received notice that it shipped on Oct. 28. and it was delivered yesterday.

Wow...what a difference that only 2 days makes.  [jawdrop]

Ha. More like what a difference a few hours makes. I also ordered on Sept. 14th but in the evening. I haven't heard anything yet.

 

[rmwarren]

I ordered Plate on the 14th, AM on the east coast and received it a couple of weeks ago. I've only used it a couple times to add counterbored holes for hardware on some MFT tops, but with the Studio design app & and an old iPad in the shop it's totally changed the utility of the Origin.

In the past I would have had to go to my office computer, create the design in F360, export it, upload to the hub, then tramp back out to the shop and tape up the MFT top, then scan and finally cut. Now it takes 2-3 minutes on the iPad, the design appears by magic on the tool and Plate is already scanned/saved as a workspace so a after a couple touches, I'm making chips & boom, done.

Not an exaggeration to say it totally changed how I will use the tool. You'll find it's worth the wait.

RMW