Shop Heating

Dricore is that 4'x4' sub floor stuff with the plastic/rubber base, right.

That stuff is expensive and really does suck with a floor that has humps and bumps.

I have poured 1000's of yards of concrete and I can tell you as flat as you think it is, you will soon find out where the nasty spots are when try to put that stuff down.
 
Dricore comes in 2' x 2' panels that have a plastic or vinyl backing and a wood top surface (http://www.dricore.com/en/eIndex.aspx). The panels have tung and grove on all four sides and you interconnect them in a stagered fashion (link you would when laying bricks). While it is true that not many concrete floors are 100% level, Dricore does have shim kits that when installed properly make for a very solid floor. Because the plastic bottom on the panels have stand-off's, the air gap in between the concrete and the panel give it an insulation factor that can raise the floor temperature by 6 degrees F. I installed them in my shop myself, a non-professional, and I can attest that they do work and I now have a solid and very comfortable shop.
 
Ruta,

Check this out.  I just bought this heater from Wangle over the weekend.  It can put out a max of 25,000 btu's.  Its a company called Enerco mnakes them in Cleveland Ohio and Wayne said he Paid $800 installed for it.  Not bad.

here is the link:
http://www.enerco.com/product2.aspx?id=370
 
Yes, the surface is OSD but I covered the entire floor with a PVC based material with a raised coin pattern. It's only been installed for about 1 year now but it has been holding up very well and makes for easy clean-ups.
 
Last year I installed an Amana PTAC unit.  This is like the units you would find in a hotel or small apartment.  The advantage is that it doesn't need high ceilings or take up much space as it is placed in the wall and it provides cooling in the summer.  The disadvantage is it costs more to operate that I expected, keeping my (uninsulated) shop in the mid to upper 60's added about $150 to my electric bill during the coldest months.

Tom.
 
Joe,

Let us know how much your electric bill increases.  Also, are you going to keep your suop up to temp or just turn it on when you using it?
 
Rutabagared said:
woodshopdemos said:
I had a BullDog gas heater installed 6 years ago. In the winter, I lower the thermostat when I am not there and it maintains 55 degrees (lowest on the  themostat. Raise it to 70 when Elena is due once or twice a week. Otherwise I can work at 55 degrees quite well.
  It has taken me about 5 years to really seal the shop totally. Even with all that, the heat costs about $74 a month...too much in my estimation.

John,
Thanks for the feedback.  $75 does sound a bit high.  As I recall your space is a two car garage.  Is the BullDog electric or gas? When you say sealed shop, does that include insulation in the walls and ceiling?  How do the puppies like 55 degrees, or do they only come to the shop when Elena is there.

Joe

Joe,
  It is a two car garage in size...never any car in it so far. Stud walls with insulation same for overhead. I dont know anything more that I could do to insulate it. This teen cold days, when I go out, I go out 2 hrs early and click it on and it heats thngs up to make thngs comfortable. Lasy year I left it on the thermostat at lowest sett - 55 degreess and it was nice environment but expensive on propane.
 
I just went through the same thing.  I insulated my attic with 18 inches of blown-in insulation, R13 in the walls, and then applied drywall.  I have a gas radiant heater that puts out 25,000 BTU's that I purchased from Wnagle and before I did the insulation the heater was installed.  I was losing heat like crazy.  Once I insulated my shop, it improved greatly but yet again the heat was still escaping and cold air was coming in.  So, I purchased the Owens-Corning R8 garage door insulation kit.  I installed that and I used the scrap to insulate between each garage door panel and also to insulate all 4 sides of the door.  After I did that, I noticed that a lot of air was coming through the outlets.  I never understood this since all the walls were insulated but they sell insulation plates that are in the shape of your outlets.  I installed those.  Any cracks in the floor I filled with the correct caulking.  After all that was complete, I can shut the heat off and the shop will stay at 45 degrees all day everyday regardless of the temp outside.  I too only turn the heat on when I am in the garage, it works great.  One other thing I did was I added a fan.  I mounted the fan in a way that it will blow the hot air that stays above the heater around the shop.  This actually improved the heating condition in my shop greatly.  I would also like to mount a ceiling fan in the middle of my shop, I think it will improve it more. The only down side to my heater is that I have to have a way for fresh air to come in.  So, I mounted a 12"x12" vent to one of the walls.  When the heat is not on, I shut the insulated door I created that now covers up this vent.  When the heat is on, I open it...  A couple tips I would like to share, when trying to figure out where all the cracks are and where all the cold air could be coming in, during the day I would shut the lights off and look for light from the outside.  I noticed a lot of light around the garage door and that's why I insulated between each panel and around the door.  Another tip is, take a lighter and move around with it to all your outlets, cracks, whatever.  If you see the flame move that means cold air is coming in.  for people who have thermostats like me who can't shut it off and can only leave it at the lowest setting which should be 55 degrees.  Open the thermostat to see the guts, take a very small piece of thin cardboard or whatever, fold it in half and then put it in-between the contact point of which creates a closed loop in the wiring which then tells the thermostat to turn on.  When the temperature falls below 55 degrees the 2 points of contact will not be made because something is in the way..  I also recommend getting a normal thermometer, this would work well for the people who a thermostat on the heater itself but only use the 1-2-3-4-5 scale.

-Dave
 
Joe, I have moved in.  That happened in November, but it took me almost 2 months to get to the point where I am right now which is designing my next project.  My garage was bare studs with no electric and no heat, plus I had all the equipment in the garage to work around.
 
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