Crazyraceguy said:
It's pretty cool that you made them to fit exactly, rather than just rectangles that would fill the space and leave those odd bumps out.
Meh... It means the universal aspect is also gone. Bosch has a way less rectangular form but has special boxes to fill that;
Bosch L-Boxx;
See the gray bins. Their trouble is that they for some odd reason only sell # amount of different sets and separate bins are hard to find.
But as far as I see it, Festool's bigger problem is switching bin dimensions every few years;
Systainer Classic Box;
bins (LxWxH [mm]) 54x54x63 (and multiples)
Systainer T-Loc Box;
bins (LxWxH [mm]) 49x49x71 (and multiples)
Systainer Storagebox and the T-Loc Sortainer;
bins (LxWxH [mm]) 60x60x71 (and multiples)
And now there is the Systainer³ Organizer;
bins (LxWxH [mm]) 50x50x68 (and multiples)
Also compare;
Festool 487552, the classic "Box";
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It fits 32 of the small red 54x54 bins, but the rectangle is only 3x7
Festool 497694, the T-Loc "Box"
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Note that it now seems to fits 35 of the small(er 49x49) red boxes in a bix 5x7 area. However... it really doesn't, because the custom orange piece (245x49x71) needs to be in the front at all times or the lid won't close.
Now if you look at Allit... they still make new stuff, all kinds of different boxes; unconnectable metal ones, big plastic ones, small ones, both stackable (and connectable) and not... dual layer ones... you name it... and they _ALL_ use the same bin; 54x54x68 (except a small section of thinner boxes, that use 54x54x45).
Compare prices;
The red 54x54x68 boxes from Allit; €3 buys you 10 of them. Can also be bought as single piece.
The light gray 50x50x68 boxes from Festool; €12 buys you 10 of them. Can't be bought separately.
Yes, the Allit boxes feel cheaper. But they actually are... by a lot.
Bonus is; the Allit one won't tip over as easily, as it has a flat bottom as opposed to standing on a rib that makes the Festool tip over it's (smaller!) diagonal.
So why couldn't Festool just use the 54x54x63 bins, or the 49x49x71 or even the 60x60x71? Let me guess; Making the Organizer 5mm thinner or 3mm thicker yet being able to buy boxes for it 2-4x cheaper... that wouldn't please Bott... cause of some arbitrary height b@llsh*t. Something to think about. What if Bott in x years decides to that [whatever]... is Tanos/Festool gonna drop all compatibility again?
Back to Bosch; they have yet another slightly different bin; 52x52x63 (yes for real..), BUTT they went throught different generations of their L-Boxx... yet the bin size stayed the same and even now new products are coming out that still fit the exact same bins. While with Festool... you can forget putting any bin from the one generation Box to the next... and that makes me sad [sad].
end of rant
Let's hope that it goes the way of the phones; in the end... everything chargeable via USB-C. Just hoping Festool won't be the Apple.... Ok, let's stop there, cause sectarianism isn't for the FoG [tongue]