Solid Wood Edging - how to glue quickly

[tDot]

I'm in the process of building a kitchen for a client and they've changed the specs to include solid wood edging. Normally when I've done solid wood edging, it's on small projects. On this one we're talking 100+ pieces to edge. I don't have access to a banding machine. Is there any way to quickly glue/process the solid wood edging?  Contact cement? Hot glue?  I tried 2p10 but it messed up the finish on the pre finished ply.
Thanks

 

[harry_]

I'm in the process of building a kitchen for a client and they've changed the specs to include solid wood edging. Normally when I've done solid wood edging, it's on small projects. On this one we're talking 100+ pieces to edge. I don't have access to a banding machine. Is there any way to quickly glue/process the solid wood edging?  Contact cement? Hot glue?  I tried 2p10 but it messed up the finish on the pre finished ply.
Thanks

Well, if you are talking the preglued stuff that comes on a roll. I have a $20 clothes iron that works just fine for me. Caveat, it is not particularly fast. Plenty fast for a piece or two or five. Probably not so much for 100+

 

[Rob-GB]

For solid trim/edging I just use a good glue (Titebond3) and masking tape to hold it in place for 30 minutes or so so it grabs well. The tape makes a good clamp for thin / light work.
Hope this helps out.

Rob.

 

[waho6o9]

2 ton marine epoxy? Good luck.

 

[richard.selwyn]

I bought a Virutex edgebander tesèterai - its still in the box. My Festool dealer assures me it is very good and that even shops with big machine use them - it's basically a hot air gun with a set of guides and rollers - I think they are around $300 in the US (a lot more over here. You might want to check out Virutex.com
I've always used hardwood, titebond 3 and Bessey clamps in the past - I've just bought some 'bowclamps' or cauls to help the process, but the idea of masking tape above sounds good to me.
Richard

 

[tDot]

Sorry. To clarify, it'll be 5/8" solid wood, so it wont be pre-glued. Which is where the issue with speed comes into play. Clamps and cauls take time and storage space. 

 

[monte]

Sorry. To clarify, it'll be 5/8" solid wood, so it wont be pre-glued. Which is where the issue with speed comes into play. Clamps and cauls take time and storage space.   

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Sometimes things just take a little time.
In the past I've found that when I super-rush things, it usually comes back and bites me in the _ss.

ps./fyi,,, even though you said "solid wood" in your first post you also mentioned not having access to a banding machine - I would think that threw people off. Cause even if you had a banding machine it wouldn't help much with "solid" wood.

All that being said you would want a glue with a little set time anything like contact cement would not give you an "adjust"
window. I'd go with the 3 point edge clamps and cauls.

like these,,,,,
http://www.besseytools.com/en/product_details.php?ASIMOID=000000020003ec2800020023&ASIMOID_SC=000000020003b76400030023&ASIMOID_MC=000000000001f3f000030023

or these,,,,,,

http://www.besseytools.com/en/product_details.php?ASIMOID=00000001000327f300030023&ASIMOID_SC=000000020003b76400030023&ASIMOID_MC=000000000001f3f000030023

 

[jonny round boy]

even though you said "solid wood" in your first post you also mentioned not having access to a banding machine - I would think that threw people off. Cause even if you had a banding machine it wouldn't help much with "solid" wood.

Roger,

A lot of industrial edge-banding machines can be used with solid timber edging. We use one at work that will do solid up to 4mm thick, and it works well. Bigger machines will do thicker edging, but I think 5/8" would be beyond the capability of most (if not all) machines.

The shelves we do have solid edging, 20x20mm, and there is no quick way to attach it.

 

[monte]

even though you said "solid wood" in your first post you also mentioned not having access to a banding machine - I would think that threw people off. Cause even if you had a banding machine it wouldn't help much with "solid" wood.

Roger,

A lot of industrial edge-banding machines can be used with solid timber edging. We use one at work that will do solid up to 4mm thick, and it works well. Bigger machines will do thicker edging, but I think 5/8" would be beyond the capability of most (if not all) machines.
The shelves we do have solid edging, 20x20mm, and there is no quick way to attach it.

I guess I should have quantified what I said earlier.
I wasn't getting a visual on how any machine could handle an edging of over a quarter inch let alone 5/8's.
I'm curious now, what is the largest thickness a banding machine could handle?
And what are the usual lengths on the thicker stock?
I'm having a hard time visualizing a roll of thick hard woods. [blink]

 

[waynelang2001]

even though you said "solid wood" in your first post you also mentioned not having access to a banding machine - I would think that threw people off. Cause even if you had a banding machine it wouldn't help much with "solid" wood.

Roger,

A lot of industrial edge-banding machines can be used with solid timber edging. We use one at work that will do solid up to 4mm thick, and it works well. Bigger machines will do thicker edging, but I think 5/8" would be beyond the capability of most (if not all) machines.
The shelves we do have solid edging, 20x20mm, and there is no quick way to attach it.

I guess I should have quantified what I said earlier.
I wasn't getting a visual on how any machine could handle an edging of over a quarter inch let alone 5/8's.
I'm curious now, what is the largest thickness a banding machine could handle?
And what are the usual lengths on the thicker stock?
I'm having a hard time visualizing a roll of thick hard woods. [blink]

From what I've seen of the Felder edging machines they don't actually use rolls when it comes time to glue on hard wood edging. You have strips already cut to the size of the board your going to edge and load them in the machine in a stack on its side.they then get fed through one piece at a time.

When I do solid 5mm edging on doors and units i just tape it in place and add a few clamps with a thick block to even out the pressure over the edging. I only leave the clamps on for about 15 minutes. So if you have a lot of boards to do, by the time you have clamped about 5 boards the first one is ready to come out of the clamps. Just don't try and plain it flush or pull on it to much until the glue has completely dried.

 

[Tim Sproul]

Sorry. To clarify, it'll be 5/8" solid wood, so it wont be pre-glued. Which is where the issue with speed comes into play. Clamps and cauls take time and storage space.   

23 gauge pin nailer

 

[jmbfestool]

Like mentioned above glue and then nail them on it's instant! That's what have done in the past only thing is you have small little holes to fill but get a good colour match filler and you wont see them

Jmb