[solved] Best place to order Domino for shipping to North Texas?

You did not mention other tools you may have, or more specifically, a dust extractor / vac. Make sure to use one with the Domino!

Also, do you have Dominos to use with the machine? Last time I checked, the Domino did not come with any, not even a small assortment. Just FYI!
 
Hi, For what its worth. Hartville Hardware is great, However they will most likely have to have the tool shipped from Festool USA then ship to you. min...2weeks [eek], Bob Marino has it in stock....2 days you got the tool. [big grin]
 
In Touch Tools, Bob Marino, ToolNut and Tom Bellamare at ToolHome are all great Festool dealers. In Touch, Toolnut and Tom are also members here at the FOG.
 
It's looking more and more like Bob's my uncle. If he ends up being out of stock, next up would be In Touch or ACME. It'll be Monday or Tuesday before it all comes together, so hopefully Bob'll be in stock then.

copcarcollector said:
You did not mention other tools you may have, or more specifically, a dust extractor / vac. Make sure to use one with the Domino!

Also, do you have Dominos to use with the machine? Last time I checked, the Domino did not come with any, not even a small assortment. Just FYI!

Good things to bring up. The dust collector issue is a big can of worms that I still have some reading on, and should probably start a different thread for when I've absorbed and processed all that there already is available to read. However, a Festool dust collector simply isn't going to happen right now. Maybe in 6 months to a year, but I'll have to muddle through some projects with either a standard dust collector or shop vac for now.

The argument against full-blown dust collectors is that they're low-velocity, and the Domino needs a high velocity suction. Ok. I don't know enough about the situation to dispute that with 100% certainty, but I can say I'm highly doubtful that the dust collector would be completely useless. I mean really.

The argument against shopvacs is that they're loud and don't have very good filtration. Ok. Nice shopvacs have hepa, and I'm already wearing a mask for the table saws and ear plugs, so I'm really good to go.

I could justify $275 - $300+ for a 1550 CFM harbor freight/used delta/whatever's on craigslist dust collector and all the hose I'll need to hook up both table saws, the jointer, planer, routers, and mediocre Domino duty. Or I could even do $150+ for a nice shopvac and whatever hoses for just the Domino. But I'll have to go with one of these two, because $450 for a single-purpose device is too much for my brain to handle right now.
 
Dust extractor (what Festool calls them) / vacuum, not dust collector - in my mind anyhow, two very different things. You need something to pull the chips out of the Domino mortise as the machine works, and I think it also helps cool the bit. I am not saying for your health, but for the optimum performance of the machine.
 
yestool said:
It's looking more and more like Bob's my uncle. If he ends up being out of stock, next up would be In Touch or ACME. It'll be Monday or Tuesday before it all comes together, so hopefully Bob'll be in stock then.

copcarcollector said:
You did not mention other tools you may have, or more specifically, a dust extractor / vac. Make sure to use one with the Domino!

Also, do you have Dominos to use with the machine? Last time I checked, the Domino did not come with any, not even a small assortment. Just FYI!

Good things to bring up. The dust collector issue is a big can of worms that I still have some reading on, and should probably start a different thread for when I've absorbed and processed all that there already is available to read. However, a Festool dust collector simply isn't going to happen right now. Maybe in 6 months to a year, but I'll have to muddle through some projects with either a standard dust collector or shop vac for now.

The argument against full-blown dust collectors is that they're low-velocity, and the Domino needs a high velocity suction. Ok. I don't know enough about the situation to dispute that with 100% certainty, but I can say I'm highly doubtful that the dust collector would be completely useless. I mean really.

The argument against shopvacs is that they're loud and don't have very good filtration. Ok. Nice shopvacs have hepa, and I'm already wearing a mask for the table saws and ear plugs, so I'm really good to go.

I could justify $275 - $300+ for a 1550 CFM harbor freight/used delta/whatever's on craigslist dust collector and all the hose I'll need to hook up both table saws, the jointer, planer, routers, and mediocre Domino duty. Or I could even do $150+ for a nice shopvac and whatever hoses for just the Domino. But I'll have to go with one of these two, because $450 for a single-purpose device is too much for my brain to handle right now.

I see that I'm crossed out but I'd like to make certain you realize that if you buy a Festool Dust Extractor with a tool, you get 10% off the Dust Extractor. The same applies to buying a table (MFT) with a tool.

Please let your dealer know that you would like to apply that policy to when you do buy the complement. It's only reasonable if within a reasonable time...

Tom
 
To tell a family secret, when I first got a Domino 500 I used a shop vac with a 1-1/2" hose.  It fit perfectly and did a great job.

I would not recommend using a dust collector intended for stationary tools.
 
copcarcollector said:
Dust extractor (what Festool calls them) / vacuum, not dust collector - in my mind anyhow, two very different things. You need something to pull the chips out of the Domino mortise as the machine works, and I think it also helps cool the bit. I am not saying for your health, but for the optimum performance of the machine.

Dust extractor? Sounds like marketing talk.

Tom Bellemare said:
I see that I'm crossed out but I'd like to make certain you realize that if you buy a Festool Dust Extractor with a tool, you get 10% off the Dust Extractor. The same applies to buying a table (MFT) with a tool.

Please let your dealer know that you would like to apply that policy to when you do buy the complement. It's only reasonable if within a reasonable time...

Tom

Didn't mean to make you feel bad about being crossed out. Even though I thought I was clear about wanting to save as much money as possible, people kept recommending you(and getting maybe a little bit sassy about it when I already stated my budget was the #1 priority).

About the 10%, I did figure that in. Even if that was for a $450 pre-discount extractor, a $405 post-discount price isn't going to change the overall situation enough to make sense. 137 CFM for $405, or 1550 CFM for $200+hoses. Oh no, but it's about air velocity you say. Ok. 137 CFM through 27mm is 370 feet per second, and that's certainly more than the 296 feet per second through 101.6mm(4") hose on the old-fashioned collector. However, not only would I be really surprised that the mere 25% difference in velocity makes or breaks the dust removal with the Domino, I'd be even more surprised if the velocity didn't increase at least a little bit when the 4" hose is reduced to 27mm. I could be completely wrong, my math could be completely wrong. I do know that when I want to get some dirt vacuumed up in a crevice or something, and the vacuum doesn't have quite enough oomph, I can put a couple/three fingers over the spout for more power. Even with the increased distance caused by my fingers, I can sometimes get that last bit of dirt. Maybe the setup isn't at all comparable, but I have a feeling that running the Domino on a old-fashioned dust collector isn't going to heat up the bit so much more that it makes a difference. And oh yeah, what about the first generation of Festool extractors? Weren't they around 100CFM? That puts air velocity at 27mm at 270 feet per second.

I'm not the smartest crayon in the cookie shed, so there's probably multiple holes in my logic somewhere.

Cochese said:
yestool said:
too much for my brain to handle right now.

Probably related to completely over-thinking your Domino purchase.

Wanting to get a fantastic tool like the Domino as quickly, safely, and without as little extra expense as possible is over-thinking? Okie dokie.
 
I would use a shop vac, trying to reduce a 4" dust collector hose to 27 mm is probably not the best way to go.  Just my opinion! 
 
Actually, when buying out of state, it's your obligation to report such for taxing purposes....

I've bought Festool from Bob Marino, and from Sean and the guys at Toolnut.  They both offer excellent service, and no issues with packaging.

Since my initial purchases though, I've switched to Tom at Tool-Home.  I live in Texas, and don't mind paying the taxes I'm obliged to pay. 

Why the switch?  Primarily related to your second and third items of your list.  Tom ships by FedEx, and I usually receive my product the second day after placing my order.  Tom also does a good job of packaging your order as well, so for me, it's a win/win situation.  I prefer FedEx, and I get speedy deliveries.  Tom also notifies you by email that he has shipped my order, along with tracking info.

When I ordered from up North, it typically took about a week to receive my shipments, regardless of where purchased.

I prefer to have my tools sooner rather than later, in my hands, where I can use them NOW.....

I will place more orders for Festool during 2015, and Tom will have my business, and I will pay the sales tax.....

Gary
 
Tool Nut has be awesome to me.

Well i did get one guy on the phone one day that was short and aditudinal with me. But the guy i always end up with in shipping or warranty or whatever is great and takes care of things lickidy split as one purchasing festool would expect well hope at least....
 
I live in northwest Indiana, my Festool purchases are through Tom. His service on my initial inquiry is why he gets my business (it was not a Festool). Orders arrive to me within 3 days unless I tell him I don't need something right away. In those cases if he has orders more pressing I'd rather see him take care of those first.

One of the dealers on the list will never get another order from me due to their lack of service.

My tools are a business expense, I pay the state sales tax on any internet or out of state purchase I make where the tax was not collected by the seller. It makes more sense for me to pay the tax than not deduct the items.

Tom
 
Well I want to thank everyone who's replied. I do have a dealer or three in mind for Monday when I order.

And I think for dust collection I will do better than a shopvac or the standard option. Even though both my current shopvacs have the same CFM rating as the Festool extractors, they're a little weaker on "static pressure." I found one that's got the similar static pressure as a Festool, but a higher CFM and it's only $300. I can get an adapter for $6 on Amazon(it'll be hard for them to mess up a rubber piece). So while my wallet is quivering from the thought of $300, it's not completely dead like if I'd planned on $450 - $625.

For tenons, I think I'll try some premade 12mm ones since that's the size the included cutter can work with. I may also get an 8mm cutter and pre-made tenons. Later this year I'll get the 14mm cutter and make my own tenons out of the same wood as the project.
 
No offense, but your post cracks me up.

You have listed a list of legitimate festool dealers. I have dealt with a lot of them. Look at Tool-Home for example, your sweating paying taxes so you are ruling out a local guy who can givve excellent service and support for what the taxes would be.

Then you'd come here asking for help about how to use the tool or if you have problems you'd be complaining about the service you are recieving etc..

I can tell you this, Ive called Tom and he was on the road driving out to a customers place to give support .
Ive emailed Bob Marino at 7 Pm PST on a Sat night about a billing question and  got a phone call from him a half hour later, which was 1030 PM his time. Then he took the tmie to research the iissue and cleared up my concerns,that evening.

You can go save yourself $100, but you wont get the service you'll want from authorized supplier , expecially one that frequents the FOG. They take our comments here seriously and help and supprt us anyway they possibly can.
Theres a old Mexican saying translated it is: "Cheap cost you more"
This is all my opinion, take it or leave it.

 
jobsworth said:
No offense, but your post cracks me up.

You have listed a list of legitimate festool dealers. I have dealt with a lot of them. Look at Tool-Home for example, your sweating paying taxes so you are ruling out a local guy who can givve excellent service and support for what the taxes would be.

Then you'd come here asking for help about how to use the tool or if you have problems you'd be complaining about the service you are recieving etc..

I can tell you this, Ive called Tom and he was on the road driving out to a customers place to give support .
Ive emailed Bob Marino at 7 Pm PST on a Sat night about a billing question and  got a phone call from him a half hour later, which was 1030 PM his time. Then he took the tmie to research the iissue and cleared up my concerns,that evening.

You can go save yourself $100, but you wont get the service you'll want from authorized supplier , expecially one that frequents the FOG. They take our comments here seriously and help and supprt us anyway they possibly can.
Theres a old Mexican saying translated it is: "Cheap cost you more"
This is all my opinion, take it or leave it.

My sentiments are the same. 

You just said it better than i could.  Festool controls the cost so all dealers are playing on a level field cost wise. As in many instances, "Cheap ain't cheap."

I hope, for his sake, his agonizing over not paying sales tax has not attracted the wrong attention to his final decision.
Tinker 
 
Yea its cold her but  not to bad today. Just got a little shop time in. Domino'd up some  picture frames now waiting for the glue to dry.
 
You guys crack ME up!  ;D

I got what I came for, and again I thank those who were helpful.

 
yestool, is receiving some good advice over all. I do believe he has made a decision. 

Please keep the thread civil.

Seth
 
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