Square drive bits are available now

[honeydoman]

I just bought square drive bits that fit the centrolock. They come in 2" 4" and 6"

For Kreg screws. They fit great. You can order them from : toolnut

(914) 621-0200

They are in new York and a great place to buy tools

Let them know Kreg bandana man sent you over. I do not get anything from them. This is just a public service announcement from one Festool guy to another

 

[dinkjs]

How do they work though.......I have some Wera square drive bits and they still dont compare to the Kreg Jig bits.....they cam out easily even at slow speeds on the drill

 

[GhostFist]

I could be wrong but I believe toolnut is selling the Atlas custom Robertsons. If so they are of excellent quality and well worth the purchase. Been using mine for months now and have zero complaints. Also testing longer and shorter versions of the #2's so they're coming as well.

 

[tbellemare]

I have some Wera square drive bits and they still dont compare to the Kreg Jig bits.....they cam out easily even at slow speeds on the drill

Is it the driver or the screw? There are a few screws sold that are soft enough that a normal Robertson square drive can't effectively drive them. The ones that have vexed me are typically stainless steel and sold at the BORG.

A square drive is inherently inferior to a star drive. They have somewhat similar characteristics, like the operator can hold the fastener with the driver, but the star drive can impart far more torque for the size of the fastener.

Although I have respect for Mr. or Ms. Robertson, the world would be a better place if we would all recognize and move toward superior design...

Tom

 

[hockey_magnet]

A square drive is inherently inferior to a star drive. They have somewhat similar characteristics, like the operator can hold the fastener with the driver, but the star drive can impart far more torque for the size of the fastener.

Tom

Don't underestimate this important difference. It is a huge advantage in many applications. As well, not wanting to start an argument, but I don't think the torque factor difference is "far more". do you have published specs to support this? Also, there are other head types that are superior to Star (Torx) as well but I think it's too late for any of these to become a single "standard".

Chris

EDIT> moved reply out of quote box

 

[dinkjs]

I have some Wera square drive bits and they still dont compare to the Kreg Jig bits.....they cam out easily even at slow speeds on the drill

Is it the driver or the screw? There are a few screws sold that are soft enough that a normal Robertson square drive can't effectively drive them. The ones that have vexed me are typically stainless steel and sold at the BORG.

A square drive is inherently inferior to a star drive. They have somewhat similar characteristics, like the operator can hold the fastener with the driver, but the star drive can impart far more torque for the size of the fastener.

Although I have respect for Mr. or Ms. Robertson, the world would be a better place if we would all recognize and move toward superior design...

Tom

Its defently the bits.....I use Kreg Jig screws from Woodcraft and or Rockler....dont buy from Lowes or Home Depot....THOSE ARE DEFENTLY NOT THE SAME SCREWS as everyone else's Kreg Jig screws.  And the Kreg Jig screw bit works flawlessly were as when I have used my Wera square drive bits which I swear by they constantly cam out.  I use Wera bits exclusively up to the point of doing square drive screws

 

[fshanno]

A square drive is inherently inferior to a star drive. They have somewhat similar characteristics, like the operator can hold the fastener with the driver, but the star drive can impart far more torque for the size of the fastener.

Although I have respect for Mr. or Ms. Robertson, the world would be a better place if we would all recognize and move toward superior design...

I have a 1/2" thick piece of wood.  I'm going to screw that piece of wood to another piece of wood.  I've got a pilot hole in the first piece quite a bit bigger than the screw.  The relatively large pilot hole is a design requirement.  The screw has a wide pan head so I'm okay.  There will be no pilot hole in the second piece of wood.  It's a 1 1/8" long screw, can't be any longer.  I can barely see the hole and I can't touch the screw as I reach into the enclosure and lower the screw into place to drive it home.  It will be mostly by feel and I need to do my best to center the thing.  I can sort of see the set up from the side with one eye.  The screw will have to enter the hole point down.  The screw will have to stick very tightly to the bit and stay in good alignment with the bit as it is lowered in to the pilot hole, makes contact with the second piece of wood and is driven in.  Remember, I might bump the edge of the pilot hole and if the screw is knocked off or knocked out of alignment I'm going to have to use bad language.  I don't want to use bad language.  And lets throw one more thing in, there are electronic parts already in the enclosure and I'd rather not put magnets in there.

Now, what's the superior drive design for that application?  I'm all ears. 

And yes this really happened.  In a high end espresso machine my son-in-law was rebuilding and tricking out.