static and anti static hoses

Dan Uhlir

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  What's the difference between static and e anti static vacuum hoses ? Besides the price ? thenks dan
 
and besides the obvious title? One allows fine dust to stick to the hose from the static buildup inside the hose, the other has a wire running through it to alleviate this problem. Never noticed a difference in use so far, but it depends on your material. Sanding application mostly.
 
I never noticed a difference until I used my non-antistatic hose to connect my CT22 to my Bosch miter saw.  After about an hour of pretty heavy use, my hose was covered with fur.  (Dust collection on a Bosch Miter Saw is not great.)

Dan.
 
The anti-static hose isn't as flexible. Might have something to do with the wire.

Both are good hoses. I have the anti-static hose which came with my vac and the larger hose purchased seperately I use on the bandsaw to the CT-22 or as an extension hose if the vac is too far away

Dan Clermont
 
Dan,

Thank you for your question.

I'd like to remind everybody of the FAQ database on www.festoolusa.com (see link in the top left corner: "FAQ Database"). You can find
answers to your questions and ask questions there.

Here is what is in the database regarding the AS hose:

What makes an antistatic hose antistatic is that it conducts static electricity to ground. Festool antistatic hoses have no visible electric leads; the high-carbon plastic they are made from conducts high voltage. The tool is grounded by way of the hose, through dust extractor, to the ground where it is plugged. If there is an open ground where the dust extractor is plugged, there is still the possibility of electric shock from the high voltage static charge produced by moving dust.

Some dust extraction systems have a visible copper lead where you attach the hose. In that case, the conductive Festool antistatic hose will work to ground the tool to that dust extraction system. The ground must be continuous however for the system to work. The outlet it's plugged into must be grounded for the system to be antistatic.

Shop vacs are generally not antistatic. If you are using your Festool with a standard shop vac or another brand of dust extractor that is not antistatic then there is no need to purchase an antistatic hose, it won't eliminate static charge.

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All thermal formable materials like plastics have ?memory?, they tend to retain their shape. Like your garden hose, unless you warm it, it will tend to coil in the same diameter that it came. If you warm your hose up by simply laying it in the sun, you can retrain it or straighten it out.

The conductive carbon used in the Festool antistatic hose is partly what makes it stiff. The non-antistatic hose is more flexible but not suggested for sanding due to the static charge generated by moving dust.

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I hope that answers your question.

Regards,

Christian Oltzscher
Festool USA

 
Dan Uhlir said:
  What's the difference between static and e anti static vacuum hoses ? Besides the price ? thenks dan
the biggest difference is that when you are using a tool that cuts or abrades material that can produce static producing voltages that YOU are not the path to ground and you don't have to get the holy crap zapped out of you as you try to continue making the cut. it is like someone scuffing their feet on carpet and then touching you, festools do an excellent job at preventing it as long as your tool and dust system maintain a antistatic  path to ground. any breaks and it will look for the path of least resistance, like you.
 
Hey Bill,
You mean like everytime I use my Delta dust collector hose to vacuum some dust off the floor and I back into the bandsaw?  ZAP!  Not bad in to summer, but in the heated dry winter air it's really bad.  I like antistatic hoses.
Tom.
 
tvgordon said:
Hey Bill,
You mean like everytime I use my Delta dust collector hose to vacuum some dust off the floor and I back into the bandsaw?  ZAP!  Not bad in to summer, but in the heated dry winter air it's really bad.  I like antistatic hoses.
Tom.
YEP YOU GOT THE PICTURE
 
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