Static discharge issues with Festool Dust Extractors
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for posting the photos...very interesting.
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I am moving this thread into the Ask Festool area. This is not a tool issue.
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Sorry a little off topic but somewhat related. I just purchased my first Festool tools including the 36 extractor with green (anti-static) hose. The HEPA certification was my primary concern driving purchase decision but the anti static-hose was a close second. About a year ago I was zapped pretty badly (a couple of times) using a shop vac (not Festool) with homemade PVC extension pipe to clean dust off cement floor after grinding adhesives off. Wow, that discharge sounded like a crack of lightening and hurt pretty badly. My arms were tingling for several hours afterwards and my hands and finger tips turned white! Never realized how bad static electricity could get before that and found out the hard way. I wound up running a copper wire through the pipe and grounded it to vacuum. I allowed the copper wire to drag on floor. It helped alot but didn't completely eliminate the static build up. I'm hoping this new Festool won't have same issue (note I'm not going to use this for concrete dust). Anyway, very interesting thread. Learning a lot here...
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TylerC said:
Tyler, I think the question has been answered. I think the original question was whether or not the AS hoses were actually AS since the OP's testing result indicated that they were not AS. However it has been pointed out that a different instrument was actually needed to do the test rather than what the OP had used. Testing with the correct instrument yielded results that the AS hoses are indeed AS.
I am guessing the OP will chime in with any additional questions.
Seth
This feels oddly familiar to me, kind of like this particular forum member is once taking advantage of this site and some unsuspecting contributors to exploit people's generosity.
My take on all of this is that owing to the problems that Oneida experienced when they released their Festool-specific Dust Deputy, some sizable portion of Sandy's perspective customers legitimately raised the issue in regard to the Dustopper and its utilization in the design of his "Festopper". Seemingly taken unaware of the potential for issues with static electricity build-up - and rather than fund his own R&D or come clean here about his concern that maybe he's released a product that might fry people's $700 vacuums - Sandy's back here again fishing around for free information that he can use to reduce his liability and beef up his bottom line.
That he was oblivious to the controversy between Thien's baffle and the Dustopper was concerning. That he didn't know the difference between non-antistatic hoses and anti-static hoses (or seem to comprehend the issue of static electricity build-up as a concern in the design of dust separator systems) and that he mocked the language that's used to mark the difference between hoses that won't fry your vac and those that may is alarming. These examples only further reinforce the feeling that I've had along that he's only out for himself. I don't know why my fellow FOGGERs keep falling for his sleazy antics.
Anyone looking for the right way to bring a new third-party Festool accessory to market would do well to avoid using the Festopper as an example and instead look for guidance and a set of roll models from a group of folks like TSO Products or the like. This whole thing stinks.
My take on all of this is that owing to the problems that Oneida experienced when they released their Festool-specific Dust Deputy, some sizable portion of Sandy's perspective customers legitimately raised the issue in regard to the Dustopper and its utilization in the design of his "Festopper". Seemingly taken unaware of the potential for issues with static electricity build-up - and rather than fund his own R&D or come clean here about his concern that maybe he's released a product that might fry people's $700 vacuums - Sandy's back here again fishing around for free information that he can use to reduce his liability and beef up his bottom line.
That he was oblivious to the controversy between Thien's baffle and the Dustopper was concerning. That he didn't know the difference between non-antistatic hoses and anti-static hoses (or seem to comprehend the issue of static electricity build-up as a concern in the design of dust separator systems) and that he mocked the language that's used to mark the difference between hoses that won't fry your vac and those that may is alarming. These examples only further reinforce the feeling that I've had along that he's only out for himself. I don't know why my fellow FOGGERs keep falling for his sleazy antics.
Anyone looking for the right way to bring a new third-party Festool accessory to market would do well to avoid using the Festopper as an example and instead look for guidance and a set of roll models from a group of folks like TSO Products or the like. This whole thing stinks.
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TinyShop said:
people just being courteous and polite, doubt anyone is falling for anything
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where does one need to begin the static discharge? as noted, the tools aren't conductive... so if I was running PVC into a dustopper, could I just ground the pipe connecting the dustopper to the Festool vac? unlike Sandy's Festopper mine just lives under a bench, so it doesn't need to be portable and I have a lot more grounding options
