Syslite Duo LED light for workshop / garage?

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] Since you have been living with these lights for a few months, how are you liking them? Do you have any problems with the clear covers rather than frosted?

Hey Ron [member=3192]rvieceli[/member] I'm still enjoying the light  [smile]  matter of fact, I purchased some 4 foot versions and installed them into other small areas in the basement. The absolutely best move I made. I like the clear covers...I'm fine with them.

A few items...
1. There's a thin plastic film on the clear covers to protect them from scratching during shipment. It's hard to see and it's also easier to remove before they are mounted.

2. The mounting clips are flimsy and can be easily bent out of shape when pressing the Barrina light stick into the clips. My solution is to double the clips up inside each other so the each clip now has a double thickness. Even so, the double thickness clips can still be bent if you're not careful.

 

[rvieceli]

Thought I’d resurrect this thread......

Based on folks experience with the Barrina lights, I decided to order a 6 pack of 8 foot 5000K. I just finished installing them today and it’s like day time in the shop. Very easy installation, chalk lined three rows, screwed in the clips and hooked them. Ended up with three rows of two eight footers.

Very nice indeed. Thanks [member=44099]Cheese[/member] for your follow up after living with them for a while. 

Ron

 

[Bertotti]

Nice thread the T5 fluorescent in my laundry room is dead and now is the time to change these look like a good option. I already put corn led bulbs in my unfinished basement but I am a fan of daylight bulbs so that's what they are. I'll have to order some of these and try them. I'm in SD so I wonder if anyone locally will carry them. I like to buy local first if possible and cost-prohibitive. Then again I get to the bigger cities in Minnesota routinely so maybe I can find them there if not here.

 

[rst]

I have 10' high trusses on 4' centers 30' wide space.  I mounted 3 8'ers on each for a total of 18 daylight units.  I have absolutely no shadows anywhere.  I do not have power yet, I'm using my Honda 2200 for power for now, definitely tell there is a load when plugged.

 

[Cheese]

Hey [member=74149]Bertotti[/member]  I also tried to purchase them locally in the Twin Cities, but they were not available. Just order them from Amazon and they’ll be delivered within 3-4 days.

 

[Bertotti]

Thanks, [member=44099]Cheese[/member] I get to Savage and South St Paul routinely and St Cloud and Rochester etc. If you didn't find them in the big cities then I probably won't find them in the Sioux Falls area either. I'll give ti a shot when I run in there tomorrow but it looks as if Amazon is the way to go!

 

[Cheese]

When I mounted the Barrina LED's in the basement/shop, I wired them to occupancy sensors. It seems that whenever going-to or coming-from the basement my hands are always full so this prevents me from tripping over tools/cats or materials.

Unfortunately, over the last 18 months I've noticed that the Barrina LED's are burning out prematurely. The 8 footers are fine but the 4 footers only last for about 6-9 months. I chased the problem down to the occupancy sensors I was using. They just don't dance well with the LED's.

The troublesome occupancy sensors are Leviton model 6791 and the Legrand model RW600U.

Fortunately, I've replaced those sensors with Lutron model MS-OPS2 units and after 9 months of use everything is still fine.  [smile]  I have high hopes that this Lutron item will work long-term because of how seamlessly they function...we'll see.

An interesting feature is that the Lutron units are smarter than the other switches and will not turn off if you enter the area ANYTIME before/during the time-out period.

With the other switches, if you entered the area during the time-out phase, they weren't smart enough to reset themselves and they would turn off regardless, even if you were 2" away from them.

The Barrina LED's also have newly designed mounting clips which are maybe 25% better than the originals. I'll take a photo later on.

 

[Chainring]

Barrina claims the 5000K models to have 85 CRI and I can verify they're very close to that. It's not to the level of some high end flashlight LEDs nor to the level of some photography equipment, but 85 CRI is very respectable in that price category.

 

[Cheese]

Look no further than Barrina LED's.  They have a clear, extremely thin piece of protective film covering the lighting element. It really feels good to remove it.  [smile]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member], how are your Barrina lights doing? I only installed 5 of the 6 I bought about the same time as you and 2 are already dead. As in extremely dim or no light at all.

[member=297]Michael Kellough[/member] I decided to attach your question to this thread. This is an issue I had with a 8' Barrina, exactly as you have experienced. The 1st with power off and the 2nd with power on.  [mad]

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[Michael Kellough]

Mine are 4 footers, bought from Amazon late Feb., 2020.

In my case the two bad units are the first ones in their rows to get power.

Checked reviews at Amazon and it seems Barrina is good at replacing bad units.

Can you share Barrina’s contact info?

 

[Sparktrician]

Mine are 4 footers, bought from Amazon late Feb., 2020.

In my case the two bad units are the first ones in their rows to get power.

Checked reviews at Amazon and it seems Barrina is good at replacing bad units.

Can you share Barrina’s contact info?

Email: CST@barrina-led.com  [smile]

 

[Cheese]

Mine are 4 footers, bought from Amazon late Feb., 2020.

In my case the two bad units are the first ones in their rows to get power.

Checked reviews at Amazon and it seems Barrina is good at replacing bad units.

Can you share Barrina’s contact info?

That also happens to be the case for one of the 8' lights, while the 4' light was at the end of the circuit.

Here's the response from Sylvia at Barrina.

"Thank you for your reply.
If you agree, we would like to give you a new 6-Pack 4ft light and a 4-pack 8ft light for replacement, is that ok? And you don't need to send the defective item back.
It will be great if you could send us an address.
Thank you and looking forward to your kind reply.
Best Regards,
Sylvia from Barrina Customer Service Team"

So...Festool, Woodpeckers and now Barrina where customer service is King.  [big grin]

 

[rst]

I have fifteen 8’ units in my shop/garage space and two 8s two 4s in my closets.  I’ve had no issues over the last couple years

 

[Cheese]

Recently, after I replaced the last 8' Barrina LED that went south, I decided to do a post-mortem on it and try to figure out why it went toes-up. To my surprise, the power supply was a lot more involved than I had originally imagined. Double E's feel free to chime in so that the community can figure this thing out.  [smile]

Hmmm...that seems to be a lot more complicated than the simple LED strips we use for under cabinet, task lighting in the kitchen.  [smile]

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However, the one thing that stood out was the change in insulation wire color from bright red to a brown/black color. Too much heat was obviously the issue. It's a tightly wrapped power supply package contained in a plastic wrapper and stuffed into a small cavity. Also notice the color change of one of the capacitors from bright yellow to a medium tan.

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Here's the back side of the G10 board and you can see the over heated discoloration section.

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I have no solutions at this time just simple observations.

 

[Cheese]

I've attached the latest [member=75217]squall_line[/member] post (#1722) to this thread to keep all the Barrina LED information in one place for easy consumption.  [smile]
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...ostuff-did-you-buy-today/msg707720/#msg707720

Squall_line your current post is timely  [smile]  as today I was looking to purchase additional Barrina lights for the garage. For the basement shop I installed the 8 footers at 72 watts x 9000 lumen x 5000ºK. It suddenly became like daylight in the shop. I was going to install the same LED's in the garage but I noticed Barrina just released a new version. An 8 footer at 100 watts x 15000 lumen x 5000ºK so I purchased a 10-pack of those.

LED efficiency keeps going up and this is a great example. The luminous efficacy (akin to efficiency) is measured in lumens per watt. Older LED's were around 40-50 lm/W, the 72 watt Barrina's are 125 lm/W and the latest 100 watt versions are 150 lm/W. So you're getting more light for the same amount of power used.

The only down side is that the 72 watt versions allow 5 LED units to be daisy chained together while the 100 watt version only allows 3 units to be connected to each other. That just means you need to provide more electrical feeds but they can be from the same electrical circuit.

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] those extra 4' sticks make great trouble lights. I keep a couple around with the line cord/switch attached to the light. They're small, light, portable and they don't get hot but become a bright 4' line source of light.

Also of interest, you noted that the three 4 footers give you 15000 lumen in a 12' string at a cost of 120 watts. One new Barrina 8 footer will give you 15000 lumen in an 8' string at a cost of 125 watts.  Life just keeps getting better.  [big grin]

Just noticed this today, the basement lights are connected together with 4' cords but these close-coupled connectors will be better for a continuous string in the garage.

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[smorgasbord]

According to the Amazon description page, the Barrina lights have a CRI (Color Rendering Index) of only 85.

I installed these just about 3 years ago, and they're doing fine:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N6871HN

5600 Lumens
50 watts
Color Temp: 4000K
CRI: 90+
They claim you can link 20 of them together.

I have 7 of these in my 2 car garage workshop, on two separate switches because that's how the original flourescents were wired up.

 

[Coen]

The CRI is really a lousy standard, only measuring 8 points in the entire spectrum. You can tweak a LED in such a way it scores good on exactly those 8 points, have a completely horrible colour rendering otherwise and still score good.

 

[Coen]

Recently, after I replaced the last 8' Barrina LED that went south, I decided to do a post-mortem on it and try to figure out why it went toes-up. To my surprise, the power supply was a lot more involved than I had originally imagined. Double E's feel free to chime in so that the community can figure this thing out.  [smile]

Hmmm...that seems to be a lot more complicated than the simple LED strips we use for under cabinet, task lighting in the kitchen.  [smile]

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However, the one thing that stood out was the change in insulation wire color from bright red to a brown/black color. Too much heat was obviously the issue. It's a tightly wrapped power supply package contained in a plastic wrapper and stuffed into a small cavity. Also notice the color change of one of the capacitors from bright yellow to a medium tan.

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Here's the back side of the G10 board and you can see the over heated discoloration section.

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I have no solutions at this time just simple observations.

That looks more like the diodes D9 and it's neighbor did the overheating.