Sysroll

[The Next Level]

Anybody thinking about this purchase? I searched this and most the comments from across the pond say look elsewhere.

 

[leakyroof]

Once my local dealer gets one I'm going to try it out for a weekend at various staircases that I know it might help with. Sister-in-Laws condo is 3 stories up. Want to try carrying my CT-26 in one hand and negotiate the Sys Roll loaded with a few Systainers with my other arm .

 

[neth27]

I bought on months ago, im in the Uk. I thought it was expensive and a bit cheap looking for the price, but have used it fully stacked up with no problems.
I thought last week it was just too large to keep getting in and out of my van so i would stick it on ebay and get something smaller. I put it on Ebay and got a expensive sack barrow (made for systainers). The first time i used the sack barrow it clipped a kerb and all my tools ended up it a heap in the middle of the road  [crying] [crying]

I got home that night and cancelled the sale of the SYS-Roll  [big grin]  (look out for a BTI systainer trolley on Ebay)  [big grin]

John..

 

[peter halle]

Actually this might be the solution that I have been waiting for.

Peter

 

[ccarrolladams]

Before I opened my new custom cabinet shop in mid 2010, 4 of my six master cabinet makers also did installations. All of us have been using Festools for years. I became a faithful Festool owner in early 2006, but all of the others have owned Festools longer.

The solution the guys who did installations have long used to move Systainers is a specialized heavy-duty hand truck which in the movie business is usually called a "film vault" truck but to the rest of the world is called a "soft drink truck" intended to move a tall stack of soft drink wholesale carriers, well over 250 pounds worth. The wheels/tires are exceptionally large to better handle the weight.

None of us have seen a Sysroll in person. We expect some of the Los Angeles County Festool dealers will have demo Sysrolls soon, but I am sure they will be demonstrated during the 4 May Festool Road School at Anderson Plywood in Culver City. I believe Sysrolls should go on sale in the USA on 1 May.

The guys have not experienced Systainers falling off the film vault trucks. The classic Systainers are latched together and held to the truck with an optional strap system similar to those on appliance hand trucks. If there is a concern it is that film vault trucks were not designed for use in expensive homes. So far no damage to floors or stairs has been reported.

Our hope is the Sysroll is designed to not mar the homes of clients while providing the same ease of movement. As we use them the stack of loaded Systainers weigh half of the usual load of film cans or especially soft drinks.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I plan to purchase one and to give it a real workout at Pellow's Camp this summer.  The terrain there is hilly and rough and there is also the thing about getting a lot of systainers into and out of boats and trailers.  I will take advanage of the 30 day return policy if rgw Sysroll does not live up to my hopes for it.

 

[Timtool]

I Handled one and the problem i could see was the hard plastic wheels, same as the vacs.
I initially used those wheels on my MFTC but the ride was too rough, if it had rubber wheels it would be ideal. But here its like using metal wheels, noisy and transferring all the shocks to the systainers.

 

[Jason Kehl]

I opted to build a sysport, much like the ones everyone else seems to build. I added 7"x 1 3/4" rubber wheels on the back and too short legs on the front. I used barrel catches to keep the drawers from opening. It is heavy when loaded with Systainers, but this is no problem on flat terrain or for a few steps, lots of stairs would be a different issue.

It works very well and I love being able to have the conveinience of a sysport on site and only have to make one trip to get several tools where I want them.

j

 

[Brice Burrell]

I plan to purchase one and to give it a real workout at Pellow's Camp this summer.  The terrain there is hilly and rough and there is also the thing about getting a lot of systainers into and out of boats and trailers.  I will take advanage of the 30 day return policy if rgw Sysroll does not live up to my hopes for it.

Frank, be sure to check if the 30 day return policy applies to the Sysroll.  The return policy is for tools, not accessories.  I don't if the roll is considered a tool or accessory.

 

[leakyroof]

I plan to purchase one and to give it a real workout at Pellow's Camp this summer.  The terrain there is hilly and rough and there is also the thing about getting a lot of systainers into and out of boats and trailers.  I will take advanage of the 30 day return policy if rgw Sysroll does not live up to my hopes for it.

Frank, be sure to check if the 30 day return policy applies to the Sysroll.  The return policy is for tools, not accessories.  I don't if the roll is considered a tool or accessory.

  True.  I don't know where the Sys Roll ends up in that dept.
One more note Brice, Danny Hale, the rep that demo'ed it for me was showing how flipping the support strap to hide the Festool name, and turning the Systainers around, also made them a bit more low key for work sites where you don't want to brag that you're wheeling in expensive Festool equipment.  Anyone who REALLY knows the product line isn't fooled, but his point was to the causal observer, there would be little brand name showing.  It was an interesting take on sketchy job sites, I thought.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I plan to purchase one and to give it a real workout at Pellow's Camp this summer.  The terrain there is hilly and rough and there is also the thing about getting a lot of systainers into and out of boats and trailers.  I will take advanage of the 30 day return policy if rgw Sysroll does not live up to my hopes for it.

Frank, be sure to check if the 30 day return policy applies to the Sysroll.  The return policy is for tools, not accessories.  I don't if the roll is considered a tool or accessory.

Thanks for the warning Brice.

Would someone from Festool please let us know whether or not the 30 day return policy will apply to the SysRoll?  ???

 

[leakyroof]

It does look interesting.  My shop is about 120' behind the house and hauling a pile of stuff in is never easy.  We bought a used CT22 for the house partly because we needed a decent vac there and partly because it was one less thing to haul in for projects.

I have the Ultimate Sysroll available but sometimes that's more of a pain than making a couple trips:

  yep, it's tight around small staircases too... [eek]

 

[rljatl]

Before I opened my new custom cabinet shop in mid 2010, 4 of my six master cabinet makers also did installations. All of us have been using Festools for years. I became a faithful Festool owner in early 2006, but all of the others have owned Festools longer.

The solution the guys who did installations have long used to move Systainers is a specialized heavy-duty hand truck which in the movie business is usually called a "film vault" truck but to the rest of the world is called a "soft drink truck" intended to move a tall stack of soft drink wholesale carriers, well over 250 pounds worth. The wheels/tires are exceptionally large to better handle the weight.

None of us have seen a Sysroll in person. We expect some of the Los Angeles County Festool dealers will have demo Sysrolls soon, but I am sure they will be demonstrated during the 4 May Festool Road School at Anderson Plywood in Culver City. I believe Sysrolls should go on sale in the USA on 1 May.

The guys have not experienced Systainers falling off the film vault trucks. The classic Systainers are latched together and held to the truck with an optional strap system similar to those on appliance hand trucks. If there is a concern it is that film vault trucks were not designed for use in expensive homes. So far no damage to floors or stairs has been reported.

Our hope is the Sysroll is designed to not mar the homes of clients while providing the same ease of movement. As we use them the stack of loaded Systainers weigh half of the usual load of film cans or especially soft drinks.

Please provide a link to the "film vault" truck like you use.  Does Amazon have one?  Thanks!

I have been struggling with whether to purchase a Sysroll, keep using a Magna-cart, or maybe a standard hand truck with large wheels and tires.  The Sysroll is appealing because of the four wheels, rail storage and the systainers lock into the bottom of the cart.

 

[The Next Level]

I watched the demo video on the sysroll and the wheels hardness was a glaring issue. Thinking the tanos heavy duty trolley is a better choice.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I plan to purchase one and to give it a real workout at Pellow's Camp this summer.  The terrain there is hilly and rough and there is also the thing about getting a lot of systainers into and out of boats and trailers.  I will take advanage of the 30 day return policy if rgw Sysroll does not live up to my hopes for it.

Frank, be sure to check if the 30 day return policy applies to the Sysroll.  The return policy is for tools, not accessories.  I don't if the roll is considered a tool or accessory.

Thanks for the warning Brice.

Would someone from Festool please let us know whether or not the 30 day return policy will apply to the SysRoll?  ???

I see that, in another thread, Shane said that the SysRoll will be considered to be an accessory and will  [sad] not   [sad] be covered by the 30 day return policy.  So, I guess that I will not be able to give it the ultimate test at Pellow's Camp.  [sad]

 

[leakyroof]

I watched the demo video on the sysroll and the wheels hardness was a glaring issue. Thinking the tanos heavy duty trolley is a better choice.

.  What do you mean?

 

[Tinker]

It does look interesting.  My shop is about 120' behind the house and hauling a pile of stuff in is never easy.  We bought a used CT22 for the house partly because we needed a decent vac there and partly because it was one less thing to haul in for projects.

I have the Ultimate Sysroll available but sometimes that's more of a pain than making a couple trips:

JMB should be interested in this.  Where are you JMB [poke]
Tinker

 

[K119Phil]

I got to briefly play around with a SYS-ROLL after Festool Road School, and I thought it was pretty darn awesome.  One of my favorite unintended features was that the handle allows you to hang a SYS-CART for more mobility solutions once you deploy at the jobsite. 

As far as orders are going, we've gotten I think 8 or 9 pre-orders?  So thus far outlook is good

 

[K119Phil]

It does look interesting.  My shop is about 120' behind the house and hauling a pile of stuff in is never easy.  We bought a used CT22 for the house partly because we needed a decent vac there and partly because it was one less thing to haul in for projects.

I have the Ultimate Sysroll available but sometimes that's more of a pain than making a couple trips:

*note to self - I gotta get me one of these