Systainer Alternative?

[onocoffee]

While we were discussing the options in another thread to Systainers, like the Milwaukee PackOut, this just came across my feed. Have not had a chance to look at them but, on first glance, they look like comparable alternative to Systainers in terms of style. I like the more refined look versus the bulky “rugged” of the PackOut-type boxes.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Pretty sexy storage system! I like it.

Even has an option for power on the trolley to keep batteries charged!

 

[mino]

Pretty sexy storage system! I like it.

Even has an option for power on the trolley to keep batteries charged!

Except it does not exist.

Pretty sure they will end up at the cost of TANOS and higher. They may be cheaper if they have it made in China. But not by that much. Precise moldings and quality plastics are not cheap. Even in China.

IF they were smart, they would have waited for the T-Loc patents to expire and shoot for interface compatibility the same way Makita or Metabo did after the Classics expired. Creating a functionally copied "system" concept that is incompatible is plain arrogant and stupid commercially. It may work for a kickstarter to a hooked-up audience and that is about it.

What pisses me is they had a huge opportunity in sticking to the standard 52.5 mm height modules, bottom and top connections while improving/tuning lots of other things for a slightly different optimisation target. Instead they completely blew it on a "design measuring contest" with 3D renders mostly ignorant of manufacturing costs.

Sorry for the negativity. That stuff just reeks to me of everything that is wrong with modern "vibe" designs.


EDIT:
Checked it a bit more.
This stuff is shooting for like 2x-4x the TANOS prices and extremely limited use cases. In that context, it is not that bad an idea but is completely different market from the TANOS space. I would argue with the partial spaceship design of SYS3, TANOS is moving away from the "acceptable to the bedroom" design of the T-Loc generation.

 

[luvmytoolz]

From what I saw it looks like they're targeting a completely different field to woodworkers, such as photographers, etc.

For them the cost wouldn't be so critical I would think, when it looks that good and can help with projecting a professional image.

But it will be picked apart by the clone makers and appear in some form or another sometime soon after release anyway.

 

[mino]

Yeah.
I still think they should have used the T-Loc connecting mechanism. They could have even licensed it at their price targets. It would have hugely expanded their use cases without much in the form of an investment.

 

[luvmytoolz]

I can actually see why they wouldn't go with T-Loc's, it's a very up-market design catering to a completely different audience, and honestly given the high pricing T-Loc's would be a visual disadvantage unless they were made in a metallic finish and the shape changed to something that would complement and blend in with the rest of the kit suitably.

T-Locs are absolutely awesome for our systainers and we all generally love them, but I think the people buying this gear want an aesthetic that matches the price tag, and T-Locs don't give that vibe, no matter how practical we find them.

I couldn't see myself buying them, but I can see sound engineers going nuts over this gear, among other professions.

 

[mino]

I can actually see why they wouldn't go with T-Loc's, it's a very up-market design catering to a completely different audience, and honestly given the high pricing T-Loc's would be a visual disadvantage unless they were made in a metallic finish and the shape changed to something that would complement and blend in with the rest of the kit suitably.

T-Locs are absolutely awesome for our systainers and we all generally love them, but I think the people buying this gear want an aesthetic that matches the price tag, and T-Locs don't give that vibe, no matter how practical we find them.

I couldn't see myself buying them, but I can see sound engineers going nuts over this gear, among other professions.

I think we are not a different plane.

When I wrote "T-Loc connecting interface" I did not have in mind the TANOS implementation of it. What I meant is the shape and position of the feet and the shape and position of the bottom catch the latch grabs. I mention it because the whole concept is obviously very systainer-inspired at the minimum so it is not like the designers were unaware.