Systainer layout

Nippychippy

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Hi guys I finally got some work so I have got some money again and the back of the van is a mess with all the tool in the back sliding everywhere so my question is  is there a formula for organising systainers  I don't want to build something and then it not fitting the lenght and width is the easy bit it's the height that  I can't work out  cheers if anyone can help
 
Well done on getting some work. I don't think there is a proper formula. What I tend to do is fit the heavier and wider items at the bottom then narrow boxes further up so the front is all in line up and down.  When I did the van I kind of piled the boxes up on top in the area I guessed I wanted to give me an idea then sketched it to help visualize the layout. I only have a Vauxhall combo so no where near as much room as transit yet I still can get all I need in and there is still room for bigger item when I need
 
I struggle with this ALL the time. Sometimes I get frustrated - until I realize what my shop used to look like before I had my systainers! Then I smile and get back to work!

 
The best way to work it out is to think of it in terms of 'systainer units'. A 'systainer unit' is the height of a sys1. All the other sizes are multiples of this height:

Sys1 = 1 unit
Sys2 = 1.5 units
Sys3 = 2 units
Sys4 = 3 units
Sys5 = 4 units

So, 2x sys2 (2x 1.5 units) = 3 units = same size as a sys4.

3x sys1 (3x 1 unit) = 3 units = also same size as sys4, etc.

NOW - the only problem with that system is that it doesn't take into account the heights of the shelf that each systainer sits on!!! This will completely screw up the numbers; the degree to which it will do so will depend entirely on the size of your shelves.

For example; if you build your unit to a height to accommodate 4x sys3s (8 units), it will be 8 units high PLUS the height of the three dividing shelves. If you then put 2x sys5s in next to it (also 8 units) it won't be as high because you've only got one dividing shelf, and you'll have a gap at the top equivalent to 2 shelf heights, which is wasted space.

I hope all this makes sense so far!

The solution therefore, is to make the unit with the same number of shelves in each section (but in different positions). For example, this unit:

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was designed to have 3 shelves in each section. In the left section there is, from the bottom, one sys4 (3 units), 2x sys1s (which makes a sys3, therefore 2 units), 2 more sys1s together again (2 units), and lastly a sys2 at the top (1.5 units). That makes a total of 3+2+2+1.5 = 8.5 units.

In the next section there is a sys5 (4 units), a sys1 (1 unit), a sys2 (1.5 units), and a sys3 (2 units). Again, 4+1+1.5+2 = 8.5 units!

So any combination of 4 systainers that equals a total of 8.5 units will fill that unit, with no wasted space!!!

You still with me?

In summary then, make the unit to accommodate a fixed number of systainer units on a fixed number of shelves. What those numbers will be will depend on what sort of height you want the unit, and what systainers you have and/or are likely to get in the future.

Of course, the other (non-OCD) option would be to just make the unit whatever height you like, put in whatever shelves you like, and just live with the resultant gaps at the top... [big grin]
 

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[scared]  [eek] brilliant jonny that's the way I want the racking to look like  is the cut out on the shelf to get your hand underneath the sys thanks for doing all the working out of that [not worthy] [thumbs up]
 
Amazing Jonny

I have screen shot that formula for future ref ..really handy

As a thought how do SYS sizes work with the 32 system .? Anyone know
 
Nippychippy said:
is the cut out on the shelf to get your hand underneath the sys

It is, yes.

VW mick said:
As a thought how do SYS sizes work with the 32 system .?

They don't, really. Don't need to either, given that that system is primarily used for shelf holes and door hinges. Shelf pins wouldn't really be strong enough for a sysport, and most don't have doors either...
 
jonny round boy said:
They don't, really. Don't need to either, given that that system is primarily used for shelf holes and door hinges. Shelf pins wouldn't really be strong enough for a sysport, and most don't have doors either...

Also for drawer slides...

I did work out how to use the 32mm layout for drawer slides (128mm for SYS1 for example) but you needed to do stupid things with drawer design to make it sufficiently robust; for example routing holes for the "feet" in the drawer base or creating a large hole for them to drop into, which then meant you needed to reinforce sides to take full extension slides. At the end of the day, I decided it was too much of a compromise.
 
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