T 15 + 3 Drill Set, its the worst drill I ever owned !

[semenza]

How about we ease up a bit in this thread.

    [member=58670]Kellard Construction Company[/member]  Please report back when the drill is returned. It certainly could be that you have a lemon. Festool is not 100% fault free in that regard.

    Also, as a couple others noted ....... when mixing paint was the drill in "drill" mode, which deactivates the clutch? If so and the clutch still kicked in then something is wrong with the drill.

Seth

 

[kellardconstruction@yahoo]

No it doesn't click, sometimes it jams and sounds like the gears are slipping. Has a screeching sound. I tried lubing it and it doesn't help. When I get it back from repair I'll post the outcome, hopefully it will be a positive outcome and I'll be as happy as you guys are with your drills. Thanks for the input !

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

Welcome to the FOG then Kellard, so glad you are real, especially after the 'dealer pretending to be a user and bigging up their own firm' debacle.

Fingers crossed Festool will come through for you and sort out the problem, I have heard excellent reports of customer service from across the pond.

Best of luck.

Warren

 

[windmill man]

Are we talking about a T15 drill driver or the illfaited Ti15 hybred impact driver .

If its a T15 i have had one for years on its still going strong  I have an older C15 with the crappy chuck that is still going strong ,the only time i have managed to get the grinding noise is if i have got the  Ist/2nd gear selecter inbetween the gears.

If you are exspecting impact driver performance out of it , i am sorry but you purchased the wrong thing .

The festool impact driver by all accounts was a lemon

Send it back to festool if you are unhappy , they will fix it

 

[Kev]

Are we talking about a T15 drill driver or the illfaited Ti15 hybred impact driver .

If its a T15 i have had one for years on its still going strong  I have an older C15 with the crappy chuck that is still going strong ,the only time i have managed to get the grinding noise is if i have got the  Ist/2nd gear selecter inbetween the gears.

If you are exspecting impact driver performance out of it , i am sorry but you purchased the wrong thing .

The festool impact driver by all accounts was a lemon

Send it back to festool if you are unhappy , they will fix it

[member=1692]windmill[/member]

Certainly not by "all accounts" and as an impact driver it's absolutely fine. People tended to complain about it's performance as a drill. It's not the strongest in the market and was probably ill conceived as a combo drill/impact offering.

To me the Ti15 is an impact driver that's powerful enough for my needs, that fits nicely in a Systainer, is compatible with Centrotec and shares batteries with my other tools.

 

[Staniam]

I have owned the T12, T18 and C18 as well as currently own and work hard the CXS and PDC. All have worked fantastically and exceeded what I thought they could do, especially the T12. That little guy could do some serious work.

As others have said, hopefully Festool fixes the problem for you.

 

[Holmz]

OK guys, I'm not a troll or Makita plant so stop with the silly attacks and don't be so defensive.
...

It is also common for airplane pilots to not believe their gauges.
People question the source of the information when they do not want to believe the information.

It will not fix your drill, but it is interesting psychologically.

 

[Kev]

OK guys, I'm not a troll or Makita plant so stop with the silly attacks and don't be so defensive.
...

It is also common for airplane pilots to not believe their gauges.
People question the source of the information when they do not want to believe the information.

It will not fix your drill, but it is interesting psychologically.

[member=40772]Holmz[/member]

I see this very differently .. if the post had been asking for help I personally would have a different perspective. It wasn't asking for help .. the first post of a recently joined member was an extremely negative rant about a Festool product that many of us have found to be a reliable high quality tool.

Imagine if you were sitting having a nice cold beer in your favourite little pub and a stranger walked in and said "hey everyone, don't buy the beer here it tastes like dog " and then turned and started shouting it at the people walking by.

More accurately I believe people in the forum question the source of the information when the info is delivered in a pattern we're starting to recognise as a typical negative marketing attack (not saying this is, but the impact is still the same).

So looking at the psychology of this I don't think it's a denial response, I actually think its a defence response.

 

[tjbnwi]

My life is great, could not find a better one to get.

I use my T-15 in the construction trades everyday. The ROI on my T-15's is more than I could ask. As I said, only cordless drill that has held up for me.

Very Christian of you to attack others for posting their experiences.

I've never smoked a pipe, or anything that might go in one. Quit smoking cigarets about 5 years ago.

Tom

 

[Staniam]

If you're in New York how and why did you spend $850 on the T15? Even the set doesn't cost that much. What do you think about the Bosch, Milwaukee, Dewalt or Metabo combo kits? Or have you tried any other brand except Festool and Makita? In my experience Makita hasn't stood up well against Milwaukee. That's just my first hand experience in auto shops and on construction sites. Doesn't mean Milwaukee is better by any meqns, I'm just curious about your experiences. The Festool PDC is far and away the best drill I've ever used and owned. If the T15 is the worst drill ever then maybe give the PDC a shot. I promise it'll be less than the $850 you had to spend on the T15.

 

[semenza]

Please can the personal attacks, the impersonal attacks and other BS.

Seth

FOG Moderator

 

[oldie]

What an unenviable task - to moderate a thread like this. 
(Thanks for all the good work done by moderators btw.) 

Although reluctant to suggest it - think that, very rarely, might be worth
temporary locking a thread, so that Festool USA can thoroughly investigate issues raised by an OP.
(Festool USA service department does have a very good reputation to protect after all.) 

Then re-opening thread when there is some sort of resolution, or, relevant facts to share - whatever they might be. 
Members could take it from there if they want to. 

Otherwise, where a thread seems to be going pear-shaped, whatever is posted could be, so easily, taken as an attack or BS. 

Richard (UK)

(edit to insert 'missing' word) 
(edit: added "where a thread seems to be going pear-shaped.") 

 

[Kev]

Please can the personal attacks, the impersonal attacks and other BS.

Seth

FOG Moderator

[member=1619]SRSemenza[/member]

Sorry Seth, but this is not good enough. Here we have an extremely rude and hostile person insulting long term contributors.

If you think it's ok to leave his last comments floating and we should all just turn the other cheek, I'd say the heart of this community has died.

Do you really think someone expressing "pity as a christian" is acceptable in any way when describing their contempt for other FOG members???

 

[oldie]

Hi Kev - hope keeping well. 
See our posts, time wise, coincided; glad mine got in front of yours though -
otherwise could have been taken as having a 'dig' at your post  [eek]
That wouldn't have been my intention. 

Do think moderators have a difficult job sometimes; leaning over backwards
to not interfere - yet - where is the line that might have been crossed? 
Do indeed think that line has been crossed in this thread - hence my post. 

Richard (UK)

 

[Holmz]

OK guys, I'm not a troll or Makita plant so stop with the silly attacks and don't be so defensive.
...

It is also common for airplane pilots to not believe their gauges.
People question the source of the information when they do not want to believe the information.

It will not fix your drill, but it is interesting psychologically.

[member=40772]Holmz[/member]

I see this very differently .. if the post had been asking for help I personally would have a different perspective. It wasn't asking for help .. the first post of a recently joined member was an extremely negative rant about a Festool product that many of us have found to be a reliable high quality tool.

Imagine if you were sitting having a nice cold beer in your favourite little pub and a stranger walked in and said "hey everyone, don't buy the beer here it tastes like dog " and then turned and started shouting it at the people walking by.

More accurately I believe people in the forum question the source of the information when the info is delivered in a pattern we're starting to recognise as a typical negative marketing attack (not saying this is, but the impact is still the same).

So looking at the psychology of this I don't think it's a denial response, I actually think its a defence response.

I see your perspective.

It is still possible he has a dud tool, and that it could be repaired.
I dunno, I have not used the T-XX drill, so I have not idea either way.

Maybe I am lucky that the delaer is a long ways away (?).

A friend saw the 4+M stack of systainers today...

 

[Deansocial]

I had a t15 festool swapped it for a t18 after I broke it. Great service to be fair. Both drills did/do a great job of screwing anything upto 300mmx8mm screws. Both out drove several impact drivers doing the same jobs time and time again. Both have mixed thinset,  plaster, drywall adhisive and not struggled with it. I used both for holesaw as upto 100mm. I've used a 100mm holesaw to in drywall. I use auger big and forstner bit upto 36mm and it does all this no problem. I have a pic now to which I don't rate quiet as highly as it's heavier and requires more speed changing for task. 3 speed would be best in my opinion.
Oh and as the the chuck. My t15 wouldn't hold a bit for love nor money but the t18 had the locking chuck which worked great.

 

[peter halle]

[member=9980]fuzzy logic[/member], good suggestion, although I sincerely doubt this thread ever gets re-opened following the lock that is about to occur.

My apologies, but the differences in time zones and something called sleep has come into play with this thread going on to this point.  Over the last 48 hours I have read some of the rudest comments in two threads and even checked to see if there is a full moon or something like that at fault.

And yes there will be some moderation coming.

Peter Halle - Moderator

 

[semenza]

Please can the personal attacks, the impersonal attacks and other BS.

Seth

FOG Moderator

[member=1619]SRSemenza[/member]

Sorry Seth, but this is not good enough. Here we have an extremely rude and hostile person insulting long term contributors.

If you think it's ok to leave his last comments floating and we should all just turn the other cheek, I'd say the heart of this community has died.

Do you really think someone expressing "pity as a christian" is acceptable in any way when describing their contempt for other FOG members???

It is not OK to leave the last comment floating. Either it came after my post or I just missed it. Sometimes the short abrupt response is in order. Or the thread just gets locked. I try to decide rather than knee jerk lock or flip a coin. Either way , not everyone will be happy.

Lets all move on with a mind towards enticing new members and new topics regardless of the way the new member comes to the forum with a first post. Threads that go the route of this one serve only to put people off. It does not matter much where the drama comes from (yes, one side is right and one wrong BUT.....)  If there is drama like this thread, it is a turn off to people.

Seth