The DOMINO has evolved.

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The DOMINO Joiner has evolved.

Beginning August 1st, the Domino will be available with several improvements including a new fence and a new Base Support Bracket. The Domino will also see the addition of a 4mm cutter and tenons which are sold separately (see details below). If you're not familiar with all of the unique advantages of the Domino joiner, visit the Festool USA website for complete product details, features, photos and video.

The new included Domino fence, which can be purchased separately (495 348), is backward compatible with existing Domino joiners and features square stop flaps which offer improvements over the previous round pins. The square stop flaps are less likely to get caught unintentionally in adjacent mortises and are less likely to be affected by glue residue. The new fence incorporates an improved clear plastic cursor which is now extended further to improve mark alignment.

The new included Base Support Bracket, which can be purchased separately (495 666), is backward compatible with existing Domino joiners and offers additional support across the face of the fence. The new Base Support Bracket now includes integrated flip stops which allow mortises to be plunged closer to the edge of the material. This is particularly useful for narrow workpieces. When using the flip stops, the center of the cut is 20mm (25/32") from the edge versus 37mm (1-15/32") without. The flip stops offer optimal flexibility when using the new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons.

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The New Domino 4mm Cutter & Tenons


The Domino now offers five (5) cutter sizes and seven (7) tenon sizes to suit a variety of applications depending on material thickness.

The Domino Assortment Systainer (493 301) includes 5mm, 6mm, 8mm and 10mm cutters and over 1,100 Domino tenons in assorted lengths and thicknesses. This kit offers the most value when purchasing the Domino and provides convenient storage for your Domino tenons. 4mm cutter and tenons sold separately.

The newest addition to the Domino family is the new 4mm cutter and tenons. We like to call them "tiny tenons". You will notice that the new 4mm cutter is shorter than other Domino cutters. This is required to accommodate the shallow plunge depth.

This new cutter and tenon size expand on the versatility and functionality of the Domino joiner.

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Drawer Boxes from 1/2" Stock

One of the most obvious applications for the new 4mm Domino accessories is creating drawer boxes from 1/2" material. Use the 4mm cutter and set your Domino joiner to the 20mm plunge depth setting. Because the 4mm cutter is shorter than other cutters, the actual resulting plunge depth will be only 10mm.

For a through tenon, set the plunge depth to 15mm instead and use your Festool Sander to sand the tenon flush to the surface.

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Inside & Outside Radius Corners

Another application for the new 4mm tenons is forming moldings for radius corners on walls and furniture. The shorter tenons provide the perfect solution for sturdy joints.

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Solutions.


The new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons have broadened the capabilities of this brilliantly simple joiner. Whether you use it for moldings, furniture, picture frames, drawer boxes, or decorative boxes the Domino is sure to exceed your demands and your expectations.

Start working faster, easier, and smarter with the new 4mm Domino cutter and tenons!

 
Shane, just to be clear, the new 4mm cutter and support bracket will work on the older style Domino machine? I see your info says so, I read somewhere on the net they aren't. Good to see you posting again we missed you over the last couple of weeks.  
 
@Brice: Correct.  The new components of the Domino will be available for current Domino owners who want to purchase them separately and all are compatible with existing Domino joiners.

If you find where you saw that posted online, let me know so we can get it corrected.

Glad to be back.  Took some time off to vacation, had family in town, etc.
 
Brice Burrell said:
Shane, just to be clear, the new 4mm cutter and support bracket will work on the older style Domino machine? Good to see you posting again we missed you over the last couple of weeks. 
Yes, the cutter and support bracket will work with any Domino.

Oops, I guess Shane beat me to it in answering.
 
Alright - so any idea of pricing for the fence modifications for the original version? Even just ballpark pricing? Are we talking $200 or something? Might be better off just selling mine and purchasing the newer version.
Pete
 
Shane Holland said:
@Brice: Correct.  The new components of the Domino will be available for current Domino owners who want to purchase them separately and all are compatible with existing Domino joiners.

If you find where you saw that posted online, let me know so we can get it corrected.

Glad to be back.  Took some time off to vacation, had family in town, etc.

Thanks Shane and Rick. I really can't remember where I saw the post, might have been Sawmill or woodnet, not sure, it was a few weeks ago.

Anyone know if they'll hold up for 1/2" plywood cabinet carcasses? I bet they're a bit too small for that purpose, thoughts?  
 
Available August 1st, here is the pricing on the new components.

495 666 New Base Support Bracket $22.00
495 663 Domino Cutter 4mm $30.00
495 661 Domino Beech 4x20 mm, 450 pc $15.50
495 348 New Domino Fence $300.00
 
Do dealers have them now for us to look at and try out?

Say your 2-3 weeks past your 30 day money back period.  Can I pleassseee exchange mine?  :D
 
Shane Holland said:
495 348 New Domino Fence $300.00

The new fence just "plugs in" to the old body? 

Is recalibration needed?

Is the old fence available as a replacement for a damaged fence?

Regards,

John
 
Shane,
How does the 4mm cutter work in 1/2" or 12mm stock?  Haven't used my Domino in a while, so just curious to see what settings are required for thickness, or mods, if any.
 
The new accessory is brilliant.

The first thing you need to do is file the small protrusion off each pin (yellow line) so the distance between the 2 is exactly 45mm. The standard spacing is way too small at 40mm. The best add on yet ;D ;D
 
Let's see if I can answer all of the questions...

@Brice: Yes, this could be used for 1/2" cabinet carcasses.

@ForumMFG: We began shipping the new Domino to dealers last week, check with your dealer of choice to see if they have received inventory.  Festool's return policy is 30 days.

@John Stevens: Yes, plug n' play.  No calibration or special steps needed.  Please note that the fence is a spare part and will not be stocked by dealers more than likely.  According to our service department, the likelihood of an entire fence having to be replaced is extremely rare.  However, if it would need replacement then it would be replaced with the same parts as the original.

@cdconey: When using the 4mm cutter with 1/2" material you will need to set the plunge depth 10mm higher than you actually want to plunge since the bit is 10mm shorter than all other bits.  So, to mortise 1/2" stock, you would set the plunge depth to 20mm (which actually only goes 10mm deep).

@tezzer: Modification of your Domino can result in the warranty being void.  I would recommend against modifications of any sort.

Thanks for all of the questions.
 
I just spoke with my supplier over the phone (woodwerks) about this new fence on the domino.  He said that once people take a look at it and try it out, he's convinced that people will want to stay with the original fence. All the people at this store have been through Festool training and are "pros" and none of them like it.  

He has 3 left of the domino with the original fence and he thinks those will sell before the new models do.  Once they are gone then people will have no choice but to buy the new one.  

A little food for thought in case you are wanting to upgrade your fence.

FYI, my supplier got his fence/new bit/new domino's yesterday and it's on display to try out so I'm sure other suppliers have it already as well.  I'm gonna check it out tonight or tomorrow.

-Dave
 
Shane Holland said:
Let's see if I can answer all of the questions...

@Brice: Yes, this could be used for 1/2" cabinet carcasses.

@ForumMFG: We began shipping the new Domino to dealers last week, check with your dealer of choice to see if they have received inventory.  Festool's return policy is 30 days.

@John Stevens: Yes, plug n' play.  No calibration or special steps needed.  Please note that the fence is a spare part and will not be stocked by dealers more than likely.  According to our service department, the likelihood of an entire fence having to be replaced is extremely rare.  However, if it would need replacement then it would be replaced with the same parts as the original.

@cdconey: When using the 4mm cutter with 1/2" material you will need to set the plunge depth 10mm higher than you actually want to plunge since the bit is 10mm shorter than all other bits.  So, to mortise 1/2" stock, you would set the plunge depth to 20mm (which actually only goes 10mm deep).

@tezzer: Modification of your Domino can result in the warranty being void.  I would recommend against modifications of any sort.

Thanks for all of the questions.

Shane,
I understand about the length of the cutter and plunge depth, but where do you set the fence to?  Do you need to add a shim to center it on the stock?
 
cdconey said:
I understand about the length of the cutter and plunge depth, but where do you set the fence to?  Do you need to add a shim to center it on the stock?

Sorry, I didn't fully understand the question.  You are correct.

The fence height would need to be set around 6mm to get the mortise in the center of the material.  That being the case, you would need to either shim the workpiece or allow it to overhang the edge of your MFT.  The reason is that otherwise the base of the Domino will not allow the fence to make contact.

Also, here's a link to the updated Domino manual for those who are interested.

(Edit to add link to manual)
 
Shane Holland said:
@tezzer: Modification of your Domino can result in the warranty being void.  I would recommend against modifications of any sort.

Why would you recommend againsed it?  Who cares as it only costs 50 bucks and the benifit of having it fit 45mm rails is worth every cent.

I would recommend the modification to all the people who get one. And i dont understand why Festool didnt make it this size (or 50mm which would have been perfect) in the first place. ???
 
Richard,

Sorry about that.  I failed to move it into the correct folder after uploading it.  All set now.
 
Rick, of course EVERYONE already has that manual...  ::)  (Which is indeed very well written and comprehensive)

 
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