Tilting table / vise for drill press

[JonathanJung]

I'd like to add a left-right tilting table / clamp / vise to my drill press. Its table doesn't tilt. I would be using it for woodworking, so I'm thinking at least 6" width holding capacity, or provision for hold downs.

Is there anything out there, well made, or will I have to come up with something on my own? Maybe get some sort of vise and bolt it to a tiltable table. At least, a tilting bed with T slots for clamps and hold downs.

1952 Walker Turner 20" with power feed from the Boeing plant in Seattle.

 

[Chainring]

I'm sure there's a more, umm, economical solution to be had, but Woodpeckers recently announced a tilting type thing for a drill press.

 

[Jason.L.Hagen]

I'm not sure how much you are looking to spend, but Woodpeckers just announced a new tool yesterday that does exactly what you are looking for.

Duax Angle Drilling Table

 

[woodwise]

Loved working with these old machines, glad they are still finding good homes.

A sine vice may be what you are looking for, or a sine plate may give you more versatility.

Interested to see what others suggest.

 

[JonathanJung]

I'm sure there's a more, umm, economical solution to be had, but Woodpeckers recently announced a tilting type thing for a drill press.

I'm not sure how much you are looking to spend, but Woodpeckers just announced a new tool yesterday that does exactly what you are looking for.

Duax Angle Drilling Table

Priorities are size and quality, then cost. The Woodpeck looks nice for small stuff, but I'd be afeared to clamp a chunk of 16/4 walnut on it for a big forstner bit.

Loved working with these old machines, glad they are still finding good homes.

A sine vice may be what you are looking for, or a sine plate may give you more versatility.

Interested to see what others suggest.

Yes, the old arn machines are a joy to work on. So well made and easy to service. The sine vices I see are too small for me.

I think maybe what I'm looking for is an auxiliary table that pivots up from one side and locks into place. Like these but better made with slots etc.:

 

[Peter_C]

Setup a search on Ebay for a large industrial tilting table that fits your post, and install it instead of the current table. Nice drill press!

I'd trade my cheesy Wilton for a HD Walker Turner like that in a heart beat, but then I would have the same problem you are as I need the tilting table especially when fish mouthing roll cage tubing in a jig.

Edit:https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-tilt-table-7-x-10/g5759
Got a picture from underneath? Can you add a trunnion to your drill press table? Wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to unbolt the table and add one in.

 

[waho6o9]

Would a sine plate work for you?

 

[Cheese]

I'd take a look at Wilton, Palmgren or KBC. They all offer both inexpensive and industrial quality metal working vises depending upon your needs. Wood working vises tend to be smaller & lighter, however I gravitate towards the heavier metal working models as the additional weight becomes your friend because they resist movement if large material cuts are taken or if you machine metals.

However, the weight issue has to be balanced by how often you will be moving and removing the vise from the drill press table. I normally use a 40# Heinrich and that's at my limit of tolerance. Gone are the days when moving a 70-80# vise was considered easy or normal.
https://wiltontools.com/us/en/c/mac...MIldLL-Jns8wIVnWxvBB2lggVnEAAYASAAEgLpN_D_BwE
https://www.palmgren.com/category/Vises/3
https://www.kbctools.com/CatSearch/347/angle-vises

 

[rvieceli]

Take a look at what you will be doing with it. IF you are going to be using only one or two angles then a shop make jig may be your best bet. Securely fastening it to your table.

If you need several different angles then one of the vises that Cheese linked to would serve you better. If you are concerned about their holding capacity on long pieces then get two  [eek]

For mission critical work you will want to fasten those vises to the table, that's what those slots in the base a for.  [wink]

Ron

 

[Cheese]

Your drill press has a real nice, heavy, thick, table with slots for T-bolts and a coolant trough that retains any cutting fluids that are used. These are usually referred to as "Production Tables" and are usually fly-cut or blanchard ground flat on the top surface, specifically to mount auxiliary vises/fixtures.

Thus your options are less limited than if your table was only for wood working.

That photo of the wooden fixture that you attached is actually a wooden version of a typical sine plate used for metal working. That may be an option in either metal or home made from wood.

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[JonathanJung]

Setup a search on Ebay for a large industrial tilting table that fits your post, and install it instead of the current table. Nice drill press!

I'd trade my cheesy Wilton for a HD Walker Turner like that in a heart beat, but then I would have the same problem you are as I need the tilting table especially when fish mouthing roll cage tubing in a jig.

Edit:https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-tilt-table-7-x-10/g5759
Got a picture from underneath? Can you add a trunnion to your drill press table? Wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to unbolt the table and add one in.

That's a good idea, I looked up and found the original brochure and see that Walker Turner made a tilting table for this machine, but it wasn't common.

 

[JonathanJung]

Your drill press has a real nice, heavy, thick, table with slots for T-bolts and a coolant trough that retains any cutting fluids that are used. These are usually referred to as "Production Tables" and are usually fly-cut or blanchard ground flat on the top surface, specifically to mount auxiliary vises/fixtures.

Thus your options are less limited than if your table was only for wood working.

That photo of the wooden fixture that you attached is actually a wooden version of a typical sine plate used for metal working. That may be an option in either metal or home made from wood.

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Sounds like making a form of sine plate, 22" x 19", to fit the table, is the best option. I drew up some plans. The black plates will be hinges, the 3 feet are adjusters for resetting to flat position. Any recommendations for improvement?

 

[Mini Me]

I always find that Google images always give a lot of choices when researching jigs etc

 

[Cheese]

The black plates will be hinges, the 3 feet are adjusters for resetting to flat position. Any recommendations for improvement?

I'd replace the 3 adjusters with a single piece of wood or aluminum tubing and use that as a positive stop. You already have stops in the form of the 2 rails that fold onto each other. The extra wood/aluminum piece is really only to help prevent any table bowing.

I'd also incorporate this style of locking handle because they're quick and you can generate more leverage on the handle.
https://www.kippusa.com/us/en/Produ...MIvIPCy6v38wIVaHNvBB3TaANQEAAYASAAEgKskfD_BwE

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[suds]

I’m somewhat surprised the fella doing the Woodpeckers demo just didn’t use the tilting table that he had on the Shopsmith 10er he was using as the drill press. Probably could have bought the SS 10er for close to what Woodpeckers wants for their table.  And a lot more functions available with the SS

 

[rmwarren]

I'd like to add a left-right tilting table / clamp / vise to my drill press. Its table doesn't tilt. I would be using it for woodworking, so I'm thinking at least 6" width holding capacity, or provision for hold downs.

Is there anything out there, well made, or will I have to come up with something on my own? Maybe get some sort of vise and bolt it to a tiltable table. At least, a tilting bed with T slots for clamps and hold downs.

1952 Walker Turner 20" with power feed from the Boeing plant in Seattle.

[member=67785]JonathanJung[/member] I have nothing to add to your question, but one of my own. Is that is just typical KB VFD you wired into the original 3 phase motor?

The reason I ask is because if doing so is straightforward, it opens up a whole new vein of available tools for a home shop. Not that I have room for a monster like that drill press, but I can dream...

Any advice on this?

Thanks,

RMW

 

[rvieceli]

Richard here’s some info on VFDs.
https://www.factorymation.com/ac_drives_qs

I use these folks for mine. I’m running 2 vfds. One for the table saw and one for the bandsaw.

I’ve got mine in enclosures and fused on 240 volts single phase.  Up to about 3hp should work but I think the sweet spot is a 2hp 3 phase motor. You pill the three phase controls and use the VFD inputs to control the drive. You’ll need a latching on/off switch. You can get NEMA 4/IP66 enclosures for the VFD. If u you oh are using it V on a drill press you can get a knob control that ramps the frequency up/down to control the speed. On my saws I just use a 5 second ramp up to 60 hz.

For mine machines with 5hp motors I use a rotary phase converter.

Ron

 

[Mini Me]

A VFD on a 3 phase drill press is NIRVANA. I have a 4 speed gear drive Abroga DP and while changing gears and speed is way easier than a belt drive it is limited in speed options. I used a Powtran VFD and the beauty of that is the keypad can be remote mounted on the DP and the VFD itself bolted to the nearest wall. I love VFD's one on the DP, one on the cyclone and one on the belt linisher and a router table now being built will score another one for the CNC water cooled spindle. I have been using and selling Powtrans for about 10 years and have had one failure IIRC. One is used every day all day driving a Clearvue and is about 8 years old now.