Tiny dust collector

If you have a table saw, I would recommend that you place a piece of wire mesh (chicken wire about 1/2" spacing) on the intake duct to the dust collector.

I recall failing to turn off the dust collection and then changing the blade on my saw.  I dropped the shaft nut and it got sucked into the bowels of the dust collector. 

I spent about two hours taking apart my hoses, blast gates and fittings until I finally found the nut.  A piece of mesh would have allowed the dust to be extracted and would have saved the nut from being sucked in.

Even if I had the dust collector turned off, it would have required a half an hour to retrieve it and restore the dust collection. 
 
After considering [member=57948]ChuckS[/member] comment about having to clean the filter I'm back to considering floor models on casters. Something I can just put away when I'm not using a jointer which wouldn't be that often anyway. The planer I have doesn't require an extractor.

If the price were better I think that Rockler unit would still be high on my list. Maybe a sale will come along. They're opening a new Rockler store in my area next month, maybe they'll run a promotion and I could skip shipping costs that way.
 
I was looking at the same one March of last year. It was on sale for $550 with 50 gift card. I missed the sale and forgot to order it. Now it’s $820. I did end up getting mini gorilla Oneida. No complaints besides the small bucket

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I don't know if lthe magnet works.  I had the mesh in the house.  I cut it to fit the plastic funnel leading to the dust collector.  It has been there ever since.  I have not dropped the nut since I installed the mesh.  Funny how that works.
 
ChuckS said:
More than good enough if you're using one machine at a time, assuming the hose is not a long long run. Even a 1HP d.c. is good enough...but wearing a N95 mask is still recommended because the table saw (edge cuts or dado cuts) and the miter saw will still spill dust into the environment.
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Thanks for the advise! Good to know 1 HP will be good enough for my shop.  Yeah, I use one tool at a time.  I'm thinking of this one then:https://beavertools.com/mdcbf1110c1m-laguna-b-flux-1hp-110v-canister-dust-collector.html
 
Packard said:
Nice is to make a tray and you can sweep the shop dust right into it.  No bending over with a dust pan.
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Sweeping is the last thing I want to do with dust. A Festool CT36 is my preferred method for floor cleanup...except for lots of metal fragments, which get scooped. An air quality meter would show a significant increase in airborne dust post sweeping.
 
ChuckS said:
Dane said:
This one from Record that was featured on the Hooked on Wood YouTube channel seems pretty ideal:
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That unit, running on 220V, has only 229 CFM, and may be good smaller machines. I wouldn't use it for machines that produce lots of chips or plume of fine dust. Average size table saws, jointers, etc. probably need well over 300 CFM to do a proper job.
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Not sure that's correct- take a look at some of the youtube reviews and online reviews.  Universally positive on the record machines for table saws, lathes and jointers in a small shop.  Inflated CFM numbers vs applied effectiveness can be different.
 
Dane said:
ChuckS said:
Dane said:
This one from Record that was featured on the Hooked on Wood YouTube channel seems pretty ideal:
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That unit, running on 220V, has only 229 CFM, and may be good smaller machines. I wouldn't use it for machines that produce lots of chips or plume of fine dust. Average size table saws, jointers, etc. probably need well over 300 CFM to do a proper job.
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Not sure that's correct- take a look at some of the youtube reviews and online reviews.  Universally positive on the record machines for table saws, lathes and jointers in a small shop.  Inflated CFM numbers vs applied effectiveness can be different.
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Also saw the reviews on these.  Interesting units.  Similar to Supercell
 
If you're not afraid of used, I would scour FB Marketplace and CraigsList for a Cincinnati Fan or late 80s to early 90s Delta two-stage barrel collector. Cincy Fan made the Delta. I have one of each. On the Cincy Fan, I replaced the bag filter with a Donaldson diesel rig air filter. I eventually will do the same for the Delta. They're quiet, reasonably powerful, low profile, easy to empty and come with very capable casters. I honestly don't know why the design went out of favor. I paid $50 for the Delta and $75 for the Cincy Fan. Tack on another 50ish for the Donaldson filter. I wouldn't trade them for any of the $600-$800 single stage collectors mentioned earlier.
 
I'd second Jeff's second-hand suggestion with one rider if the target is a plain, single dust collector: Find one that can be outfitted with a replacement HEPA filter.

We have a store here selling HEPA drum filters for those who want to upgrade from their filter bags. The catch is not every dust collector can be upgraded like that.
 
JINRO said:
I'm looking for one too.  I have one car garage shop and I'm thinking of 1.5hp, ~1200 cfm. Will it be enough for me to use it for Miter, Table, Planer and Jointer? Or do I have to go larger? I know 2hp jumps price pretty high...
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Forget the HP rating and buy the unit that has the biggest impeller. The HP rating means zip unfortunately as a 2 or 3HP on a 12" impeller will flow the same amount of air as long as the motor is at full speed.

All DE's with bags either plastic or cloth leak dust, I have never seen one that doesn't.

Never believe the advertised CFM numbers, they are all BS apart from a few noticeable exceptions such as Oneida or Clearvue and the latter does not quote flow numbers or didn't but I have not checked lately

If all you want is to keep the floor clean and pick up the big stuff just about any high volume DE will do that job and so will a broom but it won't collect the fine sub .5 and under particles that permanently stay in you lungs and cause long term health issues.

Vacuum cleaners do not capture the fine dust and the cheapies smash what they do collect into smaller particles and they all leak.

To collect the fine dust a high volume DE using 4+ inch ducts is required

Cyclones of any size are inefficient and reduce the airflow because that is how they work

The retail industry has not got a clue about dust extraction apart from the few companies such as Oneida and Clearvue etc.

Flexible hose kills air flow in a major way

Buy a dust monitor and use it to minimise the airborne dust, information is knowledge

Depressing isn't it, people think they are doing the right thing and they are literally being given the wrong information which then has long term health effects that can't be reversed. You are better off buying a powered respirator and forgetting tiny DE's, no floor space issues, no hoses etc.

 
jeffinsgf said:
On the Cincy Fan, I replaced the bag filter with a Donaldson diesel rig air filter. I eventually will do the same for the Delta.
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Wow Donaldson...haven't heard about them in years...they were the original go-to filter people and they produced the best of the best industrial filters...also situated in the Twin Cities.  [smile]
 
Cheese, at the shop we have several different brands of pleated filter dust collectors, all of which leak dust. The Donaldson (so far) does not. It was less expensive than any of the after-market conversions for dust collection and it took me a half a day and $20 worth of parts to figure out how to put it together. I'm happy with it and will do exactly the same thing for my other barrel collector. I used to roll one dust collector from machine to machine. Now I have one of the barrels permanently on my table saw, one on my radial arm saw and I only have to roll the single-stage around to the other stuff.
 
jeffinsgf said:
Cheese, at the shop we have several different brands of pleated filter dust collectors, all of which leak dust. The Donaldson (so far) does not. It was less expensive than any of the after-market conversions for dust collection and it took me a half a day and $20 worth of parts to figure out how to put it together. I'm happy with it and will do exactly the same thing for my other barrel collector. I used to roll one dust collector from machine to machine. Now I have one of the barrels permanently on my table saw, one on my radial arm saw and I only have to roll the single-stage around to the other stuff.
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Hey Jeff I'm interested in this barrel stuff...any photos? Donaldson does have the credentials...they are good at what they do.  [big grin]
 
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