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[berlinguyinca]

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good afternoon,

after selling my woodwork shop a couple of years ago I now moved to a new property, which needs a lot of major work, starting with things like patio covers, roofing replacements to building cabinets for the closets and garage, fencing and some dry walling.

Due to space limitations, I do not want a full blown shop in the garage or shed. I rather would like to have a basic setup for these tasks, which is very portable and mostly battery powered as well as very well organized.

Most importantly, I need the best dust collection possible

Right now I'm thinking:

- TSC55 with a couple of tracks ( I own this one already )
- OSC18 ( I got this one as well, hate to admit it became one of my most used tools at this stage)
- RSC18
- TSO Parallel guides 20" and 50"
- TSO MTR-X as a reference ( any alternate solutions with a similar precision?)
- OF1010 or OF1400 ( really wish festool had a cordless router)
- a cordless sander, not sure which one ( I have an old cored Dewalt and rigid laying around)
- Kapex 60 ( I have an old dewalt miter saw, so there is no rush )
- collapsible saw horses (got a couple of these) with a MFT3 style top
- Parf 2 system

My biggest concern is dust collection at this stage. I was set on getting a Midi, but now realized they are making a battery powered one as well. But I'm not sure if the batteries would last long enough for my use case. Mostly concerned about using the battery powered midi, with the router. I think for cutting and sanding it should be ok.

Any feedback?

 

[leakyroof]

I haven't tried a Battery Powered Dust Vac/Extractor while sanding or cutting, so I can't comment on that exactly. I've only used them for post work clean-up.  I've worked outside ,and in my Garage, breaking down full sheets of Plywood, so A/C electrical power is right there for a regular Festool Vac.  In my case, previously CT-22, and now CT-26.
Sanding projects outside, same set-up.
So, while I own a fair amount of Battery Powered Tools, Festool and Makita platforms,  I'm still more firmly entrenched in 'corded' tools for a good many tasks involving cutting and sanding.
Your list looks good however.  [cool]

 

[berlinguyinca]

I haven't tried a Battery Powered Dust Vac/Extractor while sanding or cutting, so I can't comment on that exactly. I've only used them for post work clean-up.  I've worked outside ,and in my Garage, breaking down full sheets of Plywood, so A/C electrical power is right there for a regular Festool Vac.  In my case, previously CT-22, and now CT-26.
Sanding projects outside, same set-up.
So, while I own a fair amount of Battery Powered Tools, Festool and Makita platforms,  I'm still more firmly entrenched in 'corded' tools for a good many tasks involving cutting and sanding.
Your list looks good however.  [cool]

Thank you and appreciate it. Really need to see how I can some power on the property.

 

[ChuckM]

"Most importantly, I need the best dust collection possible"

Be warned that the KS60's dust collection efficiency is not as good as the KS120's, based on some user inputs. But if the KS60 is good enough for your sawing needs, it may not be worth spending more for the big brother.

 

[woodferret]

The TSC and cordless sander dust bags are good for what they do.  I'd go for the corded Midi and only bring it out if you expect to do a lot of cutting/sanding in a confined space.

 

[berlinguyinca]

The TSC and cordless sander dust bags are good for what they do.  I'd go for the corded Midi and only bring it out if you expect to do a lot of cutting/sanding in a confined space.

ok corded it is. Thanks

 

[WillettBarrel]

Benchdogs has a precision square that i use and looks somewhat comparable to the MTR-X. It won't fit in a systainer, but it does have an ability to be setup for thin rip cuts on the MFT.

I might also go with an LR 32 over the Parf guide. Not only would it create MFTs just as quickly and accurately, but it would also come in handy for the cabinets you mentioned.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

The LR32 will indeed give you accurately spaced holes in a straight line, but I would doubt that it could achieve the accuracy of a grid as well as the Parf Guide system.

Spacing, sure
Indexing from one end, sure
Accurate to the next row, there's the tough part.
Can it be done? Absolutely, but it's going to take some time and some skill.
The smaller the top you do, will make it easier.

I have done 3 large tops and several smaller ones with my Parf Guide MK1, and while I would buy the MK2 version if I needed to replace it, I would choose either over the LR32. (for this task)

This is all assuming maximum accuracy. If you are just using the holes for hold-downs or clamping elements, the LR32 is going to be much quicker. You are sill going to have to find a suitable 20mm bit though. I'm not so sure I would do this in one go either? 20mm plunging that deep? I think I would run something smaller first and the 20mm as a clean-up. At that point, you are looking at bit changes between rows.

 

[WillettBarrel]

I've used LR32 for several accurate mft tops. Indexing doesn't really require to much skill, and I've used two different types of 20mm bits. Neither have had issues making the depth through mdf, ply, or hardwood.

I'm glad you like the parf. I'm sure it's an excellent system.

 

[reijos]

Not sure on sub mm accuracy but it seems that Peter Millard's LR32 MFT should be pretty accurate in both directions=z72r04kyo5z_g7w-

 

[woodferret]

Honestly, if you're mobile and packing/unpacking stuff, I'd use something like the TSO setup rather than relying on a grid board.  You'll find yourself often throwing down scraps or insulation board to cut and having a reliable method to do so without 20mm holes is quite useful.  I have the Parf2 and don't really use it much.

 

[gwurb]

- a cordless sander, not sure which one ( I have an old cored Dewalt and rigid laying around)

ETSC 125, RTSC 400, DTSC 400 are 18V. And if needed, there is a power adapter to power these sanders from AC mains.

 

[Ebuwan]

Festool system is great for portability.

Doing a lot of work on the house, room by room; I can't comment on the Kapex60, but i have the 120. I have that hooked up to an AC36 Extractor, and I'm currently trimming out a sun room using MDF, and the dust collection is amazing; Ever work with cutting MDF without good extraction? You feel it on your skin, in your nose, etc. With this setup, slight "cut mdf" smell, but that is it. I can't rave enough about how good the dust extraction is on the Kapex 120.

I have 4 MFT's (one was for the MFT for the Conturo, but i swap the top out all the time). I also have the STM 1800. Love the MFT's, but I am surprised how often I use the STM 1800; What i like to do is, setup a couple MFT's in the driveway, and the STM 1800 is the perfect height for unloading sheet goods from the pickup truck, roll it to your work space with the sheet good, and break it down.

 

[greg mann]

Festool system is great for portability.

Doing a lot of work on the house, room by room; I can't comment on the Kapex60, but i have the 120. I have that hooked up to an AC36 Extractor, and I'm currently trimming out a sun room using MDF, and the dust collection is amazing; Ever work with cutting MDF without good extraction? You feel it on your skin, in your nose, etc. With this setup, slight "cut mdf" smell, but that is it. I can't rave enough about how good the dust extraction is on the Kapex 120.

I have 4 MFT's (one was for the MFT for the Conturo, but i swap the top out all the time). I also have the STM 1800. Love the MFT's, but I am surprised how often I use the STM 1800; What i like to do is, setup a couple MFT's in the driveway, and the STM 1800 is the perfect height for unloading sheet goods from the pickup truck, roll it to your work space with the sheet good, and break it down.

I use my STM all the time as well. I have an 8mm mdf top with a couple cleats under it to throw on when I need a table for various tasks, especially simple glue ups. Or, for stacking material to move around from jointer, planer, table saw, router table, dovetail jig. I find I am using it more than my MFT these days. It also means my MFT is cleaner when I do need it.

 

[sancho57]

all depends on what your projects are

a MFT or 2 may do it, the MW workshop might do it
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/workplace-organization/mobile-workshop

MFT with the MW base may do ithttps://www.festoolusa.com/accessor...rk-benches/work-benches/203457---tsb1-mw-1000

The new portable table saw might help.

Lots of options and combinations for you to choose from

Festool is a system. The core of the system is a MFT, CT AND TS 55, along with the clamps and guide rails. the rest is job specific.

I bought a house on a acre and 1/4. I have a 829sq ft full festool workshop. Almost every tool in the shop is a festool except for my jointer and thickness planer and a couple of others.

Because the property is so large and i do work outside all around front back and inside the house, Im considering

getting the MW 1000 as a mobile work shop around my property. I already have the accessory table which I sometimes use w one of my MFTs

as I said there are lots of options.

 

[Ebuwan]

I've been eyeing theel MW 1000 as well

Anyone able to comment if they bought it and how useful they have found it?