Tools with identity crisis?

[Dave Ronyak]

Vehicle several years ago I sat in a stationary demo fitted with inflatable seat belts.  I, too, was a little apprehensive, but when they were "fired" it was no problem.  They worked exactly as the promoters claimed.  My apologies for taking this so far off topic.

Dave R.

 

[TahoeTwoBears]

Any tool that fits in a systainer has been installed therein. So much easier to store and transport. I absolutely detest blow-molded cases...always did, even before discovering systainers. The Maxi even fits my framer and finish nailer guns, Sys5 for a Senco compressor, et al.

Only a few exceptions:

Milwaukee 10" circular saw (Steel box)
Makita 6" hand planer (Nice box-jointed wood box)
Couple of Makita reciprocating saws (both with steel boxes)

- Pete

Pete,

Nice idea about the nailers.  I have three nailers (framer, 15g, 18g) and two staplers (narrow crown and uphostory), and am going to get a 23g pinner.   Your post set off a "light bulb" - it would be great to store all of them in one systainer!   Much less fishing around for the right box.

Thanks,

Dan.

Okay, so I'm looking to store my nailers 15g, 18g, and 23g pinner (don't own it yet, but should order this week). Did you ever store your nailers in a Systainer? Has anyone? Any cool pics for ideas of how to do this neatly?

Mike

 

[Ned]

Mike--

No pics but it's not hard to arrange.  I've got a 15g finish nailer, 18g brad nailer, 2 staplers, and a palm nailer, with spares & accessories, in a Sys 4.

They sit vertically and can be reached without taking everything out.

The Systainer has the thin X-cut pad (NAINA, if I recall) in the bottom, but that wouldn't be required.

I doubt a nails-in-a-stick-type framing gun would would fit in a Systainer other than one of the two Maxis.  Probably best fit would be the shallower (and NAINA) one.

Ned

 

[gkeas]

I recently pieced a "drill kit" together using a Sys2VARI and a Sortainer 4.  I keep my cordless drill (brand to remain unnamed to prevent embarassment) and charger in the top, and keep all my driver bits, drill bits, paddle bits, hole saw kit, and a good assortment of screws and wall anchors in the Sortainer 4.

 

[Iggy1965]

Hello you all,

My wife owns a tool rental company and all the powertools of any brand you rent are stowed in a company (azur) blue systainer with their company name on it. looks great and professional. Of course I got some of these company systainers to stow my ''other brand' powertools in, like cordless drills (2x makita), 2 electr. drills (2x metabo), 1 pneumatic drill (makita), 1 router (dewalt), 1 belt sander (makita), 1 tacker (dutack) and 2 paintguns with gravity cup.

In The Netherlands (Europe) sometimes Makita, Metabo and Haubold (tackers) sell their tools in a systainer too. And you can sometime by these boxes under a private (different) brandname like ?ronside or Berner for a better price

Best regards Iggy

 

[TahoeTwoBears]

Mike--

No pics but it's not hard to arrange.  I've got a 15g finish nailer, 18g brad nailer, 2 staplers, and a palm nailer, with spares & accessories, in a Sys 4.

They sit vertically and can be reached without taking everything out.

The Systainer has the thin X-cut pad (NAINA, if I recall) in the bottom, but that wouldn't be required.

I doubt a nails-in-a-stick-type framing gun would would fit in a Systainer other than one of the two Maxis.  Probably best fit would be the shallower (and NAINA) one.

Ned

Thanks Ned,

Can you tell me which palm nailer you bought and if you're happy with it. I'll be rebuilding a fence this summer and use a lot of the Simpson ties. Nice not to hammer (newly concreted posts) with heavy blows if I can help it.

Mike

 

[Dan Clark]

Mike,

You might want to take a look at the "GRTMP16 Grip-Rite Air Nailer": http://www.grip-rite.com/grip_rite_pneu_tools.asp?Action=6 (bottom of page).

I already have a PC palm nailer, but just bought this little one after trying it out at a local dealer.  It's very small and light, but sets 3 1/2" nails MUCH better than my PC palm nailer.    It's more controllable and much faster than my PC.

Regards,

Dan.

 

[Ned]

Mike--

It's a Porter-Cable PN650 with glove. 

My biggest complaint is that it requires oil, the only one of my likely-to-be-used-around-wood tools that do.

I got it because it seemed like a cheap way to extend the range of what I could do with air power.  It allegedly will drive 3d (32mm) finish nails, though I haven't tried that.  At the other end of the range, it will drive 70d (6.5 inch, ~165mm) spikes.

It's not a substitute for a framing gun, but if you don't need one very often, it might be enough.

I've tried it with T-molding.  Works, but it would be better if the palm nailer had a soft hammer head.

I've used them to "encourage" the flow of granular material out of hoppers.

The PC model costs more than other name brands, but I was after the versatility.  The others' claims stop at 16d.

I'd do it again, same model.

Ned

 

[Dan Clark]

Mike,

The PC Palm Nailer that I have is also the PN650.  I have the whole kit, but I've never used the accessories. 

To get it started, sometimes I have to shove it pretty hard or "whack it" with my other hand.  It's very tough to control.  Also, the nail magnet doesn't work very well on mine; the nail falls out a lot. 

With the Grip-Rite, you can control it with two fingers and light pressure.  The nail magnet works well too.

Unlike Ned, I would never buy a PC Palm Nailer again.

Regards,

Dan.

p.s., I have a PC 18g brad nailer and two PC staplers.  They work great.  It's only the palm nailer that gives me grief.

 

[Ned]

I think the difference between Dan's opinion and mine comes down to what we expect of a palm nailer.

I got mine to whack big things, and generally make the local woodpeckers feel inadequate in the noise department  .

I agree with Dan's criticism of the PC model.

If you don't mind topping out at 16d nails, go with Dan's advice.

Ned

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Sys 3: Makita Belt Sander
Sys 3: Bosch Electric Hand Plane (I know, I'll get the Festool eventually!)
Sys 4: Bosch Router (Again, I'll get the OF1400 eventually)
Sys 2: 5" Angle grinders
Sys 2: Hole saws and big drill bits
Sys 1: Makita Jigsaw
Sys 3: Makita LXT Cordless Kit
Sortainer 12: Cordless Accessories, commonly used screws, sockets, Kreg Jig stuff, etc...., docked w/ LXT kit
Sys 1: Hilti 1/2" Drill
Sys 2: Hitachi Roofing nailer
Sys 1: Drywall kit (Screwgun, Rotozip, rasp, etc...)
Sys Maxi: Trim nailers (23 gauge, 18 gauge, 15 gauge, narrow crown stapler)
Sys Maxi: Makita DA4031 Right Angle Drill
Sys Maxi: Makita 1 9/16" Rotary Hammer
Sys Maxi: Drywall taping knives, trowels, sanders, etc....
Sys Maxi: Framing nailer and sheathing stapler
Sys 2: Miter saw and Sawhelper accessories
Sys 1: Kreg Jig clamps and drill block
Sys 1 Box: Kreg screws, plugs, etc...
Sys 3: Makita 1" Rotary Hammer
...................... This is the stuff I can think of off the top of my head, but yeah, after buying the Sys 4 for my router and Sys 1 with the bit insert, I had to start buying Systainers for everything else I haul around with me, I've finally made enough room that I can now start actually buying Festool TOOLS, not just systainers  :