track saw clamps that don't stick out the bottom

[waho6o9]

Rapid clamps rock

Cut a door panel to fit, fast and  cost effective.

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[antss]

Too bad Festool doesn't have something like the Mafell Aerofix clamp system

That might just be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[Michael Kellough]

This might work for you--http://www.veritastools.com/Products/Page.aspx?p=513

Need to substitute a t-nut type washer underneath so it will slide into the bottom track of the rail.  Hope the pics are clear enough.

--John

These would be good to anchor the clamp in the rail slot but need to know the screw size. This example is 6mm. Also need to change head type.

 

[ben_r_]

[member=57611]treesner[/member]

The Rapid clamp trigger end also swivels, so it is more compact on the bottom:

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I didn not know the handle rotated! I use 2" foam under my cuts and that handle would fit perfect hanging over the ends! Ordering one now! Thanks for posting those pics!

 

[treesner]

...but recommend a change in work technique. Instead of  laying foam panel on the floor, add a folding Centipede work surface,
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I have two (the smaller size) from Lowe's. They are the most space-saving bench tops for assembly, cutting (including circle-cutting), nailing, layout etc., etc. Almost forgot the finishing table, too. When folded into the original bag, it takes up 10" x 10" space in a corner. Highly recommended if you have shop space issues for a permanent assembly table.

oh lowes carries these? you would rather have two smaller ones put together to cut 4x8 ply than the larger one?

 

[treesner]

Too bad Festool doesn't have something like the Mafell Aerofix clamp system

that things cool! they have one setting work on the floor as well.. i still have a week or two to return my festool one.. hmm

 

[treesner]

This might work for you--http://www.veritastools.com/Products/Page.aspx?p=513

Need to substitute a t-nut type washer underneath so it will slide into the bottom track of the rail.  Hope the pics are clear enough.

--John

thank you, where can i get a t nut and what size?

edit, just looked at the new link for this tool and it looks like they have a t track fitting version, is this the right size?http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,41637&p=64685

 

[DB10]

Have you tried cutting your plywood without clamping the track, especially on the floor I can't see that track moving anywhere. I tend to only use clamps if the material I'm cutting is slippery.

 

[Cheese]

thank you, where can i get a t nut and what size?

Try 80/20, they offer all styles and sizes of t-nuts in imperial & metric.
https://8020.net/catalog/category/view/s/shop/id/837/?cat=392

 

[Bob D.]

Too bad Festool doesn't have something like the Mafell Aerofix clamp system

that things cool! they have one setting work on the floor as well.. i still have a week or two to return my festool one.. hmm

Since I first saw this my brain has been using every spare clock tick to figure out a way to do this with the Festool tracks. I've got some ideas brewing, hopefully the light bulb will come on soon.

Edit 6/04/17: Looks like what I was thinking Peter had the same idea a few years ago, just came across his post in the thread referenced above this morning.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festo...-ct-wings-for-me-i-guess/msg341775/#msg341775

 

[Frank-Jan]

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You can also make a DIY vaccuum clamp that hooks up to the rail similar to the gecko dosh. That way you can get a bit of the functionality of a mafell aero guiderail.
In the threads about the CT wings there are a few examples of how to build something like that using a piece of ply and some self adhesive foam tape as a gasket.

I was digging up the link for the CT wings thread, and I saw they actually came up with a rail clamp at the time:


from This thread

You could use it with two seperate hoses from the vac, or if you would make a Y-splitter at the clamp like on the aerofix, you need to be carefull that the sawdust doesn't drop into the clamp (place the Y or T further upstream).

PS Is it just me, or do none of those aerofix demonstration/review videos show how long it takes untill you can remove the rail after the cut?

 

[Nat X]

PS Is it just me, or do none of those aerofix demonstration/review videos show how long it takes untill you can remove the rail after the cut?

You're not pulling 30 inches of mercury with the thing. Just peel up a corner and the suction is broken. Setting it back down in the correct place with the vacuum running is the real problem.

 

[John Stevens]

thank you, where can i get a t nut and what size?

edit, just looked at the new link for this tool and it looks like they have a t track fitting version, is this the right size?http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,41637&p=64685

I don't think the LV t-nuts fit the festool guide rail channels.  Anyone else know?  I'm using an Incra t-nut.  Hope this helps.

--John

 

[treesner]

This might work for you--http://www.veritastools.com/Products/Page.aspx?p=513

Need to substitute a t-nut type washer underneath so it will slide into the bottom track of the rail.  Hope the pics are clear enough.

--John

Also found this on tickler that goes really low

 

[ben_r_]

LINK yea that is something to consider, perhaps with something like on the other end: LINK

 

[treesner]

LINK yea that is something to consider, perhaps with something like on the other end: LINK

oh interesting, wonder if it gets nice and tight like the festool ones i bought. i was thinking if i had the low profile on one side i could just hang the gun trigger thing off the end of the foam for clearance but might be worth trying that little guy too

 

[ben_r_]

LINK yea that is something to consider, perhaps with something like on the other end: LINK

oh interesting, wonder if it gets nice and tight like the festool ones i bought. i was thinking if i had the low profile on one side i could just hang the gun trigger thing off the end of the foam for clearance but might be worth trying that little guy too

So was I, so I ordered the festool "gun" one. Might try the Rockler one too. If it goes on sale for cheaper.

 

[demographic]

Seems to me that you're making this hard work for yourself.

For at least 90% of my cuts with the guiderail I don't even use the clamps anyway.
Just use the natural non slip of the rails.

Plus I have it up on sawstools with two eight foot bits of studding timber running across from one stool to another and then maybe four bits of timber about a metre long running scross those two long timbers.
That means that even if I totally forget to set my depth it still won't damage the floor or my sawstools, plus I can fit my extractor (CTM26) underneath it all so it takes up less space and the odd cut that I need to finish off with a handsaw is up at the right height.
Oh and as you get older you start to appreciate not having to scrat about on the floor like a hungry chicken.

 

[fritter63]

Have you tried cutting your plywood without clamping the track, especially on the floor I can't see that track moving anywhere. I tend to only use clamps if the material I'm cutting is slippery.

Diddo on that. I cut mine same way (foam on the floor) and I don't even clamp it. "Magic" strips holds fine. I also just use my free hand to press the track down for extra grip.

 

[treesner]

LINK yea that is something to consider, perhaps with something like on the other end: LINK

oh interesting, wonder if it gets nice and tight like the festool ones i bought. i was thinking if i had the low profile on one side i could just hang the gun trigger thing off the end of the foam for clearance but might be worth trying that little guy too

So was I, so I ordered the festool "gun" one. Might try the Rockler one too. If it goes on sale for cheaper.

I got the rockler back one to go along with the festool gun and it's making my current workflow work just how I need it to. I can't tighten it as right as festool tho (ends up slipping ) but so far so good

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