TS 55 track saw models

[CeeJay]

We will have an absolute answer to all things and Festool will launch a new model that is the same globally.  Depth Scale in Cubits, and Bevel system in Radians.

Maybe with Brexit the UK will get a new model that is still metric but randomly has Imperial parts here and there, the TS55 HMS  [tongue]

[emoji23] that’s gold. And depth scale in fathoms!

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[wpz]

We will have an absolute answer to all things and Festool will launch a new model that is the same globally.  Depth Scale in Cubits, and Bevel system in Radians.

Maybe with Brexit the UK will get a new model that is still metric but randomly has Imperial parts here and there, the TS55 HMS  [tongue]

You would have 2 UK models TS55 HMS: the 220V model and a 110V model for the construction sites, because Brits like to keep things simple  [tongue]
Who came up with that idea? (and why!?!)

I'm surprised we didn't come up with it here in Belgium, we have 9 different ministers in 4 different goverments responsible for public health, who communicate in 3 different languages, very handy in the current virus-crisis  [blink]

I want a TS55-S (strumpf) for Belgium, which measures depth of cut in fractions of Smurf [big grin]

wpz

 

[flair woodworks]

Very interesting about the US customary system/IPS. I knew there were different versions of the measurements, but never explored it further.

You guys make me want to replace all the scales in my shop with ones that read:

It took me about six years to realize that my table saw has a inch/mm scale.

 

[mkasdin]

I'm in the market for a TS 55 track saw and I'm thoroughly confused by the model #s. Can anyone tell me the difference between TS 55 EQ, TS 55 REQ, TS 55 REQ-F and TS 55 REQ-F-PLUS?

If your buying new, there is just one model.  The REQ-F ,  The F is for "Fix" (i doubt that Festool would say it, but it's the reality). they had to correct a flaw on the non-F version, it was basically a silent upgrade. I'm not even sure they even show it all the time as "F", but again if buying new, it will be the same saw. All the inch labeled saws that are sold in North America are "F".  Only if you are trying to find a metric one, thus used, does the models really come into play.

The Plus just means it comes with a Rail (a package).

when did the newer TS55 req -f get released? I have an older 2016 ts-55 req and I believe it’s a non -f with the lack of a locking 90 degree stop? So if I make a bevel cut, change ripping blade to cross cut, swap a dull blade for a sharpened blade, I will then need to square up the blade with practice cuts into (thick) stock and check angles with engineer squares to get a true 90 degree edge. I find the adjustment screw in the front and the front/rear locking screws, a raised ridged base plate, a little finicky for my taste...

 

[Bob D.]

F is for Frustrate the FOG  [huh]

 

[tomk]

I too am frustrated with the model number confusion. I just picked up a TS55 REQ-F from the recon site and it arrived in a Systainer 3 (yay!) which is what the plus means. It also came with a dirty sticky nasty blade. I was actually under the impression that the REQ-F was the US version of the TS55F with the new thin kerf blade. It even says so on the Festool USA website. Needless to say I am NOT happy about this. [mad] For the money I saved is just about going to be canceled out by having to buy a new blade. They should have included the new style blade brand new in the box. I left them a message today so hopefully they will be able to rectify the problem.
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/sawing/track-saws/576011---ts-55-req-f-plus-us#Functions

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[ScotF]

I don't think they are selling the this kart corded saw in NA yet. It would require a different riving knife. I am hoping when they do that it is an easy retrofit.

 

[Cheese]

It also came with a dirty sticky nasty blade. I was actually under the impression that the REQ-F was the US version of the TS55F with the new thin kerf blade.

It even says so on the Festool USA website.

Sorry, Festool has not offered that saw in the USA yet.

If you scroll down to the 5th Product Detail on the Festool USA TS 55 REQ-F-Plus website it states:

Improved safety, easy handling
The spring-loaded riving knife runs behind the saw blade to prevent it from binding and makes it easier to insert the blade in existing joints.

The referral to the riving knife is the first clue.

The second clue is if you continue to scroll down to the Accessories Section, the only blades that are mentioned as accessories are the 2.2 mm kerf blades.

I'd suggest you refer only to the "dirty, stick, nasty blade" if you want some perks from Festool. The other argument won't gain much traction.

 

[tomk]

Sorry, Festool has not offered that saw in the USA yet.

If you scroll down to the 5th Product Detail on the Festool USA TS 55 REQ-F-Plus website it states:

Improved safety, easy handling
The spring-loaded riving knife runs behind the saw blade to prevent it from binding and makes it easier to insert the blade in existing joints.

The referral to the riving knife is the first clue.

The second clue is if you continue to scroll down to the Accessories Section, the only blades that are mentioned as accessories are the 2.2 mm kerf blades.

I'd suggest you refer only to the "dirty, stick, nasty blade" if you want some perks from Festool. The other argument won't gain much traction.

Well a plain reading of the page suggests a new blade and clearly says up to twice as fast. Same text is on the TS55F page from the UK site.  Either the page is wrong or I have the wrong blade. The TS55F in EU still has a classic riving knife.

 

[Cheese]

After going to the UK website I see what you're talking about.  [smile]
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/sawing/track-saws/576011---ts-55-req-f-plus-us#Overview
https://www.festool.co.uk/products/sawing/circular-saws/576707---ts-55-feq-plus-gb-110v

Most of the marketing information from the UK website has been used on the US website even though they are different saws.  [eek]

This statement also jumped out because both of these saws are corded but on the UK website they mentioned

"Thanks to our new generation of saw blades and the concentrated torque of our cordless plunge-cut saws, you will be able to work up to twice as fast. Maximum cutting performance meets perfect cutting quality."

Not understanding what the cordless referral has to do with corded products. [sad]

Festool ad copy has always been suspect and the intervening years certainly haven't changed things for the better.

 

[notenoughcash]

i think festools MO is confuse em so much we buy every one.  it seem to work for some [tongue]

 

[waho6o9]

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A bottle of CMT will clean that blade right up. Enjoy your new saw!

 

[squall_line]

The short answer to "why didn't I get a 1.8mm kerf model corded TS 55" will be a combination of "the only 1.8mm kerf TS55 for sale in North America is the TSC" and "the model designation is clearly the TS 55 REQ".

The picture on the FUSA website shows a TS 55 FEQ, which is completely different. The 360-degree picture is the REQ-F. It's pretty much par for the course, unfortunately.  The package contents on the Recon listing would show what was included, and is the final arbiter rather than any image showing what is in the kit.

If you feel bamboozled, I think the best anyone has been offered is a return with "store credit" towards a future purchase.  Otherwise, all Recon sales are listed as final (see also: why I have an HK 55 and an HKC 55).

 

[woodferret]

under the impression that the REQ-F was the US version of the TS55F with the new thin kerf blade. It even says so on the Festool USA website. Needless to say I am NOT happy about this. [mad] For the money I saved is just about going to be canceled out by having to buy a new blade. They should have included the new style blade brand new in the box. I left them a message today so hopefully they will be able to rectify the problem.
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/sawing/track-saws/576011---ts-55-req-f-plus-us#Functions

Admittedly, that site is a hot mess.  'Product highlights' (aka marketing fluff) pulled in crap from their new K series.  HW W48 (as spec'd) is a 2.2mm blade, as is your riving knife.  A thinner blade won't be viable for you unless you replace that riving knife - which isn't a first party option.

 

[tomk]

Admittedly, that site is a hot mess.  'Product highlights' (aka marketing fluff) pulled in junk from their new K series.  HW W48 (as spec'd) is a 2.2mm blade, as is your riving knife.  A thinner blade won't be viable for you unless you replace that riving knife - which isn't a first party option.

So I went to EKAT to see if I could take the riving knife from the UK version and make a Frankenstein. Guess what I found on the US parts catalog...

TS 55 FEQ-F US

Its always fun to buy an obsolete model on day 1  [crying] To be fair it's not released yet but my goodness I would have waited.

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[squall_line]

The TSC55 KEB (new model with anti-kickback) Basic model is posted on the Recon site right now, 15% off, no batteries or charger.  In case you were still looking for the new model and didn't mind it being cordless.

 

[Coen]

How can that be?  The -F came out before they did inch tools.  They also very much did a design change in the saws, and the saws that had that fixed were listed -F. I think I jumped the gun on an earlier comment, I think there was a period of time with -F models and metric, as the inch tools didn't show up till mid-end 2016, and I think the -F before that.

I never heard of the F version of the REQB, but apparently it's a thing :O

When they launched the inch tools, they put "Imp." at the end of the tools name from announcements at the time. It looks like festool has removed all the press releases about the change, so can't find official stuff, just links on Websites. 

Looking at Festool USA website, I see -F all over on tools, which I'm pretty sure was not the case even recently. I only remember the TS-55 having -F. 

If the -F doesn't go with the fix to the bevel system, then how is anyone to know what saw they are buying?

-F might not exist in other countries, they had a different model anyway because they have electronic brake.

That would be the 'B' from the German word for brake; Bremse

I could be completely wrong, but that just creates a much more confusing situation.

Did they later change things and re-purpose "-F", maybe they realized calling them "imperial" tools in the USA is complete nonsense speak.

TS 55; original TS 55
TS 55 R; the one that saws closer to the wall
TS 55 R -F; some bevel release button ?!
TS 55 F; the newly released version with 1.8mm blade

I'm in the market for a TS 55 track saw and I'm thoroughly confused by the model #s. Can anyone tell me the difference between TS 55 EQ, TS 55 REQ, TS 55 REQ-F and TS 55 REQ-F-PLUS?

If your buying new, there is just one model.  The REQ-F ,  The F is for "Fix" (i doubt that Festool would say it, but it's the reality). they had to correct a flaw on the non-F version, it was basically a silent upgrade. I'm not even sure they even show it all the time as "F", but again if buying new, it will be the same saw. All the inch labeled saws that are sold in North America are "F".  Only if you are trying to find a metric one, thus used, does the models really come into play.

The Plus just means it comes with a Rail (a package).

No, the Plus just means it comes with a Systainer. The one with Systainer and rail is labeled 'Plus-FS', FS coming from the German word 'Führungsschiene' which means 'rail'.

Except in the case of the OF-1010; then 'Plus-FS' is suddenly replaced by 'Set'  [huh]