TS 55R (Updated TS55)

mafel can be used off the rail easier,  measurements on and off the rail.
scoring feature.
 
....Improved rail connection, clamping slots on both the cutting edge of the rail as well as towards the backside, improved dust collection due to a completely enclosed blade...
 
Alan m said:
mafel can be used off the rail easier,  measurements on and off the rail.
scoring feature.

I would like the the guide for the depth of cut to better on the TS and this is one of the features I believe has been addressed in the upgraded saw. Whoever came up with the depth guide on the TS within Festool must have been on something mind bending IMHO as it possibly the saws most serious flaw. It has to be the same guy that came up with the serious flaw on the parallel guides and I hope he has had at least a written warning!

How well does the scoring feature work on the Mafell and is it a game changer? I know my TS performed at it's very best straight out of the box and as soon as the guide rail strip starts to wear the quality of cut on top does diminish. Does the scoring feature on the Mafell overcome this with a worn guide rail strip?
 
GhostFist said:
....Improved rail connection, clamping slots on both the cutting edge of the rail as well as towards the backside, improved dust collection due to a completely enclosed blade...

It is starting to sound more attractive as I can't clamp a narrow piece of stock on a Festool guide rail if I want to trim it. I get round it by supporting the rest of the rail with a piece of material the same thickness and push down from above when I'm cutting making sure I exert no lateral force. It's not ideal but it works.
 
It has more power, and the splinter guard strips don't fall off the track.

John...
 
neth27 said:
It has more power, and the splinter guard strips don't fall off the track.

John...

Both good points, the TS55 is definitely under powered especially for ripping any hardwood timber thicker than a fag paper. I am about to replace my first splinter guard in the next few days and I have to be honest I'm not looking forward to it having read a few posts on here.
 
Love the "fools and horses" vid, but it is a thing i like about festool, you can get spares and repair your tools; none of them "sealed unit " or "you have to buy the assembly".

The scoring unit offsets the blade by about .02 and preset the depth to a couple of mm in one action, it works very well, and gets over having to move your splitter strip, you wont have a problem with the splinter stip if its the clear one . I hated the black ones
 
neth27 said:

I have been having my eye on the  Mafell LS103 for a while now!  Just wish it was a little cheaper and I wouldnt of bought it with out a doubt!    Just the price is making me thing twice!    Especially after doing this oak porch and hoping if I get them have some more oak jobs in the pipe line later on!  This tool would be mint!

JMB
 
windmill man said:
The scoring unit offsets the blade by about .02 and preset the depth to a couple of mm in one action, it works very well, and gets over having to move your splitter strip, you wont have a problem with the splinter stip if its the clear one . I hated the black ones
That's interesting. When I asked the guy from Mafell about that offset, he admitted it would leave a gap if I tried to butt two pieces of melamine for instance. When I queried the lack of this feature with Festool, they said that they'd tried it and it was no good because of that. I'm in the market for a new saw, I'd like confirmation that the scoring really works.
Richard
 
So do you guys that hate the TS55 that much also hate the TS75?

and I keep reading "easier to use off the rail", how often do you really do that?

Mafell has NO footprint around here, so for me this is not even a topic of concern. Hard enough finding guys that know/use Fessy's, let alone someone who's heard of Mafell.

I would like to try the Mafell and see what all the fuss is 'bout, but at $300 more and no dealer support it most likely will just never happen. I have the 75 and like it but someday will add a ts55 or equivalent to have a lighter saw for sheet goods, unless I have to cut 2 or 3 at a time , then the 75 shines.  
 
tjbier said:
So do you guys that hate the TS55 that much also hate the TS75?

and I keep reading "easier to use off the rail", how often do you really do that?

Mafell has NO footprint around here, so for me this is not even a topic of concern. Hard enough finding guys that know/use Fessy's, let alone someone who's heard of Mafell.

I would like to try the Mafell and see what all the fuss is 'bout, but at $300 more and no dealer support it most likely will just never happen. I have the 75 and like it but someday will add a ts55 or equivalent to have a lighter saw for sheet goods, unless I have to cut 2 or 3 at a time , then the 75 shines.  
I don't hate either of them and use them with great satisfaction. Its just as I've got to think about repairing the base on the 55 I'd be interested if something else was better.
I have the Carvex and think it is rubbish (been raired twice and still no good) so was going to buy the Mafell jigsaw but the dealer said its no better. Glad I've got a Bosch ;)
 
Richard,

The scoring function does work.

But if you are working with white or light coloured sheets , it does leave a line  on edge to edge joints, on dark stuff or edge to face joint its not noticeable. but it is absolutely chip free.

I do have a technique with the festool 55 that does something similar but cant describe it here.  I'm sure you can work it out. Just don't think too deep and think the problem through backwards and forwards [big grin]

John
 
windmill man said:
Richard,

The scoring function does work.

But if you are working with white or light coloured sheets , it does leave a line  on edge to edge joints, on dark stuff or edge to face joint its not noticeable. but it is absolutely chip free.

I do have a technique with the festool 55 that does something similar but cant describe it here.  I'm sure you can work it out. Just don't think too deep and think the problem through backwards and forwards [big grin]

John

Why can't you describe pulling the saw backwards on here? [big grin]

John...
 
tjbier said:
So do you guys that hate the TS55 that much also hate the TS75?

and I keep reading "easier to use off the rail", how often do you really do that?

Mafell has NO footprint around here, so for me this is not even a topic of concern. Hard enough finding guys that know/use Fessy's, let alone someone who's heard of Mafell.

I would like to try the Mafell and see what all the fuss is 'bout, but at $300 more and no dealer support it most likely will just never happen. I have the 75 and like it but someday will add a ts55 or equivalent to have a lighter saw for sheet goods, unless I have to cut 2 or 3 at a time , then the 75 shines.  

I dont think anyone hates the ts55 I kept mine for a year after I bought the mafell I just sold it as I had not used it.and I bought a ts75
 
richard.selwyn said:
I don't hate either of them and use them with great satisfaction. Its just as I've got to think about repairing the base on the 55 I'd be interested if something else was better.
I have the Carvex and think it is rubbish (been raired twice and still no good) so was going to buy the Mafell jigsaw but the dealer said its no better. Glad I've got a Bosch ;)

Have you tried the hilti wsj 850-eb jigsaw?  I wasn't trilled with my Fes jigsaw and thought the Hilti looked interesting, but haven't been able to see one in the flesh. 
 
jmbfestool said:
neth27 said:

I have been having my eye on the  Mafell LS103 for a while now!  Just wish it was a little cheaper and I wouldnt of bought it with out a doubt!     Just the price is making me thing twice!     Especially after doing this oak porch and hoping if I get them have some more oak jobs in the pipe line later on!  This tool would be mint!

JMB

A joinery shop i visit had 3 of them, they got them for a project they were doing with some oak. They must of had about 100 lengths of 10x6 oak in the compound.They also had some of the Mafell drills sand the portable bandsaws (they said the bandsaws were amazing) They asked me if i wanted to buy any after they had finished the project..... A bit out of my price range, and i would never use them  [big grin]

John......
 
Vindingo said:
richard.selwyn said:
I don't hate either of them and use them with great satisfaction. Its just as I've got to think about repairing the base on the 55 I'd be interested if something else was better.
I have the Carvex and think it is rubbish (been raired twice and still no good) so was going to buy the Mafell jigsaw but the dealer said its no better. Glad I've got a Bosch ;)

Have you tried the hilti wsj 850-eb jigsaw?  I wasn't trilled with my Fes jigsaw and thought the Hilti looked interesting, but haven't been able to see one in the flesh. 

I had the Hilti wsj 850  jigsaw, great saw, cut through anything.... But i wanted cordless... Got the cordless carvex and I'm not very impressed upto now..

john...
 
richard.selwyn said:
jmbfestool said:
Is it better than e Protool one?

I dont really know ill check it out!  I think the Mafel has more accessories!  The thing is each accessory for the LS103 is about £4000 so the tool could end up costing you £15 000 so not really a cheap option!
 
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