TSO Guide Rail Adapter with Star Knobs?

[Mike Goetzke]

C'mon [member=4518]Mike Goetzke[/member] don't be shy with the Zoro link 

Sorry - their site was having issues earlier:
https://www.zoro.com/kipp-star-grip-m5-x-10-mm-25-mm-od-red-k01554056x10/i/G3616996/

Noticed these knobs look a little taller than the fully machined ones. I have a Makita cordless and think I have more clearance than Festool but I need to check. Looks like the knobs are 16mm tall:
https://www.kipp.com/gb/en/Products...L-Star-grips-with-external-thread-Form-L.html

I also found these nice SS ones at Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0748BR5XZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A5E984U90G1AK&psc=1

 

[Bugsysiegals]

Alternatively, I'd recommend the newer quick adapters.  They slip on/off the guide rail t-track easily while still being secure and don't require any screws. 

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In fact, they attach and detach so easily I'm going to replace my Incra fence with TSO close fit dogs, it should be more stable & I have one underneath the guide rail for more material support, and use a TSO PG for setting crosscut widths.  I'm not sure if it will be better or not but sure is nice to have options and knowing I could do it this way if I was ever mobile without needing to bring the Incra fence with me.

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[Josh2]

Alternatively, I'd recommend the newer quick adapters.  They slip on/off the guide rail t-track easily while still being secure and don't require any screws. 

Can you explain how this works? I am going to get the quick adapter but the pictures on the TSO website do show screws and a part that rides in the track similar to their guide rail connector. Your pics don't show any screws. Thanks!

 

[Bugsysiegals]

Yeah I didn't get it at first either until they shared the video with me... gotta love the ingenuity of these guys [member=61691]TSO_Products[/member]!!

 

[DynaGlide]

[member=60777]Bugsysiegals[/member] My mobile setup is a spare MFT/3 fence with some fence dogs from benchdogs.co.uk. Works great.

 

[Bugsysiegals]

[member=60777]Bugsysiegals[/member] My mobile setup is a spare MFT/3 fence with some fence dogs from benchdogs.co.uk. Works great.

[member=71544]08G8V8[/member] mentioned in this thread that his fence with the fence dogs moves justy enough that he has to constantly re-calibrate the fence whenever he removes it ... that would drive me nuts so hopefully is not the case for you.

That said, that's one reason I'm excited to try the TSO PG for crosscutting ... I can move it back and forth between parallel and crosscutting guide and it will always remain calibrated.

 

[Mike Goetzke]

Alternatively, I'd recommend the newer quick adapters.  They slip on/off the guide rail t-track easily while still being secure and don't require any screws. 

In fact, they attach and detach so easily I'm going to replace my Incra fence with TSO close fit dogs, it should be more stable & I have one underneath the guide rail for more material support, and use a TSO PG for setting crosscut widths.  I'm not sure if it will be better or not but sure is nice to have options and knowing I could do it this way if I was ever mobile without needing to bring the Incra fence with me.

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I haven't spent the time to determine why but this easy on/off is for Festool rails only - I have Makita rails.

 

[08G8V8]

Alternatively, I'd recommend the newer quick adapters.  They slip on/off the guide rail t-track easily while still being secure and don't require any screws. 

In fact, they attach and detach so easily I'm going to replace my Incra fence with TSO close fit dogs, it should be more stable & I have one underneath the guide rail for more material support, and use a TSO PG for setting crosscut widths.  I'm not sure if it will be better or not but sure is nice to have options and knowing I could do it this way if I was ever mobile without needing to bring the Incra fence with me.

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I haven't spent the time to determine why but this easy on/off is for Festool rails only - I have Makita rails.

Yeah, I’m a Makita track guy myself.  He anti-tip lip on the Makita track keeps the new TSO adapter from slipping on the track like the Festool rail.

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[Bugsysiegals]

Sorry to hear that ... it's very nice to avoid the sliding it into the track and tightening the knobs ... it's almost like a post-it note now!!

 

[Mike Goetzke]

Received the Kipp star knobs from Zoro today. Perfect match for the TSO knobs.

As expected, with my Makita cordless I can not go to maximum depth of cut. I can get to 45mm on the saw scale that equals a cut on the rail to a little over 1-5/8". So easily enough to cut through a 2x lumber.

In the pictures below it looks like you could reduce the plastic shoulder if you really wanted to maximize your cut depth. Maybe someone has a solution to doing this??? I do have a wood lathe but not much to grab on this tiny knob.

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[Bugsysiegals]

Not sure how much clearance you have but perhaps the thumbscrew like this wouldn’t even rub and would be enough to grip ...

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[Mike Goetzke]

Not sure how much clearance you have but perhaps the thumbscrew like this wouldn’t even rub and would be enough to grip ...

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Thanks for the info.

I like the Kipp star knobs since they are a little easier to grip, match the TSO star knobs, doubt I will need any more depth of cut than approximately 1-5/8" (42mm), and they match the TSO star knobs  ;D.

For others that need to maximize depth of cut but want tool-less during my search I did find some M5 thumb screws that are 12mm diameter and the head is only 5mm tall. Although, these may be more difficult to tighten and loosen.

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