two very niche tools

[usernumber1]

* dustless waterless tile saw
this should be a natural for the festool vacuum system. i'm not aware of any major brands having anything like this. having your cutting right next to where you work, without any water or dust would be a huge advantage.
not woodworking but more construction oriented: brick, slate, decorative pieces not just wall and floor tile

* lipping planer
again very special. it would go with the hk850 blades that are angled.
with the amazing dust collection it would expand the ability to trim hardwood edge banding over 2" which is well over any solution they have right now, and without any competition really.
hoffman does not have a unit right now until later this year and virutex is somewhat inferior

 

[AlexThePalex]

* dustless waterless tile saw

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[Holzhacker]

I've seen that saw on the FOG before. I think some of the UK / Euro guys have discussed it because its available over there. It's another NAINA product as far as I know.
I had been putting off a new saw purchase 2018/19 hoping Festool would bring this over.
Had a job come up, had to have a tile saw with DC. My old saw had died some time ago. I ended up buying the Makita 4100KB tile saw. Its advertised as a dustless cutter. It comes with a dust bag but also hooks up to a Vac. I hooked it up to my CT22. Also has a very nice clear see thru blade cover that allows you to see the cut line. DC was great. I was working in a small bathroom with a closed door. Didn't have to spend any time cleaning the whole bath. Had to cut thru ceramic tile and durock. I'm not a big Makita fan. No particular reason but this saw really is a great option.
If Festool brought their saw over I don't think I would buy it at this point. The Makita is just too good. Granted it doesn't work on a guide rail and doesn't look as cool as the Festool but I think I can live with that.

 

[usernumber1]

those are great (if we ever get them in NA) but I was thinking a tile table saw version so you can run miters and rip cuts more precisely - as well as repeatedly
gliding table, angled cuts, plunge cuts, miters, etc.

the only such product I know of is from a small company in CA iqpowertools so if festool makes one maybe they can integrate with their vacuum which would make it smaller lighter and more portable.

 

[afish]

I've seen that saw on the FOG before. I think some of the UK / Euro guys have discussed it because its available over there. It's another NAINA product as far as I know.
I had been putting off a new saw purchase 2018/19 hoping Festool would bring this over.
Had a job come up, had to have a tile saw with DC. My old saw had died some time ago. I ended up buying the Makita 4100KB tile saw. Its advertised as a dustless cutter. It comes with a dust bag but also hooks up to a Vac. I hooked it up to my CT22. Also has a very nice clear see thru blade cover that allows you to see the cut line. DC was great. I was working in a small bathroom with a closed door. Didn't have to spend any time cleaning the whole bath. Had to cut thru ceramic tile and durock. I'm not a big Makita fan. No particular reason but this saw really is a great option.
If Festool brought their saw over I don't think I would buy it at this point. The Makita is just too good. Granted it doesn't work on a guide rail and doesn't look as cool as the Festool but I think I can live with that.

Just FYI the Makita can work on a guide rail.

 

[AlexThePalex]

but I was thinking a tile table saw version s

Well, I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen anytime soon. A saw like that is totally not in the Festool philosophy right now.

 

[afish]

agreed, Not sure if it would ever happen if it did im guessing at least a decade out and even thats a big IF.  The IQ is also the only saw on the market I know of that is dust/waterless like what you describe.  I havent used the saw like the Makita on tile but based on the fact that others say it works well and it can be used on a guide rail opens up some interesting possibilities. especially when combined with a MFT style tile cutting bench.  Lord knows tiles only keep getting bigger. 

 

[Cheese]

I ended up buying the Makita 4100KB tile saw. Its advertised as a dustless cutter. It comes with a dust bag but also hooks up to a Vac. I hooked it up to my CT22. Also has a very nice clear see thru blade cover that allows you to see the cut line. DC was great. I was working in a small bathroom with a closed door. Didn't have to spend any time cleaning the whole bath. Had to cut thru ceramic tile and durock.

[member=6145]Holzhacker[/member] curious what the quality of cut was with the Makita and what blade you used?

I need something for porcelain tile.

 

[Holzhacker]

Cheese, I used the factory diamond blade that came with the saw. Worked very nice, no bad chips or ceramic flakes popping off along the edges. I wasn't too worried because the installation was going to have moulding around it.
I'm always leery of cutting porcelain tile. Some porcelain cuts good. Some of it can have bad flaking along cut edges. All depends if its good porcelain or that .99 cent crap from Home Depot. For porcelain I would probably buy a higher quality blade.
I've ordered blades and other tile stuff from Braxton-Bragg. They can be a bit pricey on some stuff but do have some good deals and nice quality.

 

[Cheese]

Cheese, I used the factory diamond blade that came with the saw. Worked very nice, no bad chips or ceramic flakes popping off along the edges. I wasn't too worried because the installation was going to have moulding around it.
I'm always leery of cutting porcelain tile. Some porcelain cuts good. Some of it can have bad flaking along cut edges. All depends if its good porcelain or that .99 cent junk from Home Depot. For porcelain I would probably buy a higher quality blade.
I've ordered blades and other tile stuff from Braxton-Bragg. They can be a bit pricey on some stuff but do have some good deals and nice quality.

Just curious how your cuts compare to these? This is the porcelain I'm using, cutting it with the TSC 55 and an ATS blade. I'm used to the perfect edges I get with a traditional wet saw.

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[Holzhacker]

My cuts with the Makita, factory included blade, were more like your #1 or 2 edges to better. If they were like the #3 or 4 edges that would be a problem.
For clarification I had to cut 3 sides of previously installed ceramic wall tile in order to make an opening for a new larger medicine cabinet. I have two wet saws; a big one and a little one. Obviously those weren't going to do any good.
If this had been a vacant job site I would have just taped the tile and used a 4" diamond grinder to make the cuts. Since it was an occupied, finished unit I needed the Makita. I have a Dewalt cordless that I've use for minor cuts on tile, say around electrical boxes, but it makes a lot of dust.

 

[xedos]

Here ya go - AINA too !  [thumbs up]
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