unusual flooring job

[joiner1970]

We started a flooring job today which should be fun  [scared]  [laughing] . We are laying 70mm insulation over Vis-queen which then has a layer T & G chipboard glued together then a layer of paper/cardboard on top of that. The final layer is the unusual bit we are using 4000mm x 400mm x 35mm thick solid wood (maybe engineered not seen it yet) not sure what wood as its not been delivered yet. This as far as I know is T & G too and we are screwing and pelleting this down to the chipboard. The client saw this floor somewhere and decided he wanted it in his house, the 4 m lengths are so that you don't have any end joints anywhere, the boards go the entire width of the room. There is no skirting either the floor has to be cut with and exact 10mm gap all the way around which will be filled with cork , sounds small to me but that's what they have specified.

Its a very odd house too, looks like a club or bar or something. The roof is all huge gluelam beams and T & G cladding, all doors are huge pocket doors and there is no plaster anywhere all the interior walls are bare brickwork. Looks to me like it was a 1980's experimental house or something.

Here is today's job to lay all the vis-queen and insulation. On to the chipboard tomorrow

 

[Alan m]

unusual job.
keep us updated. soundslike you need the ts55r tot the gap after the floor is in

 

[jmbfestool]

It is unusual. 

Love the see pictures of it! 

Not fond of the brick work on show.  From the pictures doesn't look like they are really nice lookin bricks.

The 10mm gap does seem small to me also! Especially if your filling it with cork cus that does reduce the expansion slightly even though it is soft.

lol  I tend to leave 20-30 mm expansion gaps for flooring with no cork filler so lol 10mm is tiny in my crazy world.    I think Dean Social thinks im a little over the top now he has worked with me for a little bit now lol

JMB

 

[woodguy7]

Any more pictures of the rest of the house, doors etc ?  Safe to say that flooring will be engineered or laminated.  Prob like putting a young n groove on stair stringer  ;D

 

[joiner1970]

Hi guys, I'm on mobile right now but when wifey gets off pc I will post today's pics. Flooring turned up today on a flat bed lorry. It's longer than I thought, some lengths are around 10 metres  [eek]. It's Douglas fir 35mm thick with loose tongues. We've been supplied with everything we need even some really nice drill counter bore drill bits to plug it all. It took about 4 people to safely carry the long lengths to give you some idea of the size. Most of the room is shorter luckily.

 

[joiner1970]

Here goes, we started laying the caberdeck today. Took a picture of the ceiling to show what a strange house it is, as I say I reckon it was an eighties designer house or maybe older. The brown interior brickwork is horrible makes the place really gloomy. Notice the really groovy lights  [laughing] [laughing]. All the exterior and interior sliding doors are the early aluminium type but in great condition.

Regarding the cutting the 10mm gap I would love to buy a new ts55r but I don't think it would do 10mm and it would be too fiddly in places so we will just have to cut each length to size precisely  [scared] [laughing]

 

[Deansocial]

when i first read it i thought it was going to be floor panels like these http://www.bausenhardwoodflooring.co.uk/webapps/p/90676/257182/593188

 

[joiner1970]

One thing I never mentioned was that there are also floor heating vents all the way around the room that we have to cut around just to make it even more tricky  [laughing]

 

[peter halle]

I love to see these types of threads.

Is it normal to let the flooring acclimate to it's surroundings for a few weeks on your side of the pond?

Peter

 

[joiner1970]

I love to see these types of threads.

Is it normal to let the flooring acclimate to it's surroundings for a few weeks on your side of the pond?

Peter

Yes Peter usually this is the norm to let it acclimatise to the room but we have been told its fine to fit it as its already at the right moisture content I suppose.

 

[peter halle]

Wow.  What a risk with boards that wide.  I am not criticizing you at all.

Peter

 

[joiner1970]

No worries Peter Im not worried as im just working for the main contractor and we are just laying the floor as we have been told by the suppliers, so if it all goes wrong its their problem  [laughing].

I don't think there will be any problems as everything so far material-wise has been top notch no expense spared so I'm sure they now what they are doing "where's the fingers crossed smiley"  [laughing]

PS i know exactly what you mean Peter I laid a solid oak floor glue to concrete a few years back for an architect. The floor sat there for 8 weeks until it was OK to lay and it looks beautiful to this day, but they underestimated how much we needed and as he wanted to move in to his new house he asked us to lay the next lot after only one week. As you can guess that section looks crap, it cupped and shrank. I warned him but what more can you do.

 

[joiner1970]

Finished off the chipboard flooring today, then we started setting out the Douglas fir boards. We have marks around 700mm apart starting 50mm in from the ends of the boards at each end of the room and the plan is to run a string line across every time we drill and fix so that the pellets are in a dead straight line. We have only cut in and fixed two boards so far but they seem to go together well and are nice and straight. As far as I know they were shipped in from Denmark, also found out that the home owner owns a chain of designer furniture shops in London , that explains the unusual choice of flooring  [laughing].

Regards letting the boards acclimatise to the room , I asked about that today and apparently the supplier says this stuff can be laid straight away and only needs to acclimatise in the winter. The drill bits they have supplied with everything are really nice. A 5mm spur bit with an adjustable outer cutter which cuts the counter bore, they cut really nice clean holes.

 

 

[woodguy7]

Kinda weird, you look down whilst walking & you could think you have shrunk  ;D

 

[Wooden Lungs]

Wow I would love to be on that job..... [smile] I was browsing and found this web-site http://www.dinesen.com/eng/douglas_traets.php   is the floor from this crowd?
Douglas fir is lovely to work with and I hope it all goes together well for you. Have you found out how they plan to finish it? Must be tough on the old spinal column laying lenghts that long too.

 

[joiner1970]

I did see the finish somewhere will take another look today and let you know. Some mops turned up I'm guessing they are for applying the finish , we are not involved with that side of it we are just laying the floor. Yes its not good carrying the longest lengths.

 

[mattfc]

I guess it should look something like this then

 

[Rob-GB]

Kinda weird, you look down whilst walking & you could think you have shrunk  ;D

[ban]
Just spat coffee over my monitor and a quote I just printed off, comments like that need a "funny" warning  ;D ;D

On topic... I spoke to a client who has run a flooring business for many many lots of years and the consensus is that if the timber flooring is treated a prescribed by the manufacturer and it is not made by Junkers then there really should not be an issue with movement.
I would be interested in knowing what the moisture content is of the boards though!  [smile]

Rob

 

[Kristian]

Wow I would love to be on that job..... [smile] I was browsing and found this web-site http://www.dinesen.com/eng/douglas_traets.php   is the floor from this crowd?
Douglas fir is lovely to work with and I hope it all goes together well for you. Have you found out how they plan to finish it? Must be tough on the old spinal column laying lenghts that long too.

Yes, it appears to be from Dinesen here in Denmark. You'll notice their logo on the parcel left on the truck. They make some truly beautiful floors. There's a nice gallery on their web site: http://www.dinesen.com/eng/fronteng.php

- Kristian

 

[Deansocial]

Kinda weird, you look down whilst walking & you could think you have shrunk  ;D

[ban]
Just spat coffee over my monitor and a quote I just printed off, comments like that need a "funny" warning  ;D ;D

On topic... I spoke to a client who has run a flooring business for many many lots of years and the consensus is that if the timber flooring is treated a prescribed by the manufacturer and it is not made by Junkers then there really should not be an issue with movement.
I would be interested in knowing what the moisture content is of the boards though!  [smile]

Rob

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