Upgraded my DW745
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Matt,
The super fence and stock guides are both great additions to your saw. I have a Bosch 4100, which I have been lusting to replace for years, and am embarrassed I never thought to do either of them. It would have been trivial given there is already a built in t-slot in the fence.
I've looked at the stock guides several times in the past and, for some unknown reason, felt like there must be some technical reason or real disadvantage to using the router guides on a table saw rather than the much more expensive table saw guides. It seems to me that you are having great success with the router guides. Do you think that you make any compromises using the router guides or is all that extra engineering in the table saw guides just to mount them on an upper t-slot?
Thank you, again, for sharing. Your setup is very nice and your shutter work in the other thread looks great!
-Reed
The super fence and stock guides are both great additions to your saw. I have a Bosch 4100, which I have been lusting to replace for years, and am embarrassed I never thought to do either of them. It would have been trivial given there is already a built in t-slot in the fence.
I've looked at the stock guides several times in the past and, for some unknown reason, felt like there must be some technical reason or real disadvantage to using the router guides on a table saw rather than the much more expensive table saw guides. It seems to me that you are having great success with the router guides. Do you think that you make any compromises using the router guides or is all that extra engineering in the table saw guides just to mount them on an upper t-slot?
Thank you, again, for sharing. Your setup is very nice and your shutter work in the other thread looks great!
-Reed
[member=63227]Reed Hoyer[/member] - I have the Jessem guides on my router table and recently bought the TS guides for my table saw. The TS guide wheels themselves are bigger and beefier than those on the router guides. When I push a full 4x8’ sheet into the table saw those guides grab it and within an inch or two the first wheel has it snugged up against the fence and held down tight. I would think that in practice that will be the difference between the two when mounted on the TS ... BIG heavy pieces. No reason that the router guides won’t work they are just a bit smaller. Now as far as smaller work is concerned I would think that there will be no difference at all.
The other minor difference is that the router guides can pivot up to allow certain sizes of work to slide under them (without using them) without the need to remove them from the fence. However, if you wanted to run something tall up against the fence you would need to remove them. Whereas the TS guides can swing up and retract out of the way altogether. To me that is not really an issue at all as it takes seconds to slide the router guides out and then a few more seconds to slide them back in.
The other minor difference is that the router guides can pivot up to allow certain sizes of work to slide under them (without using them) without the need to remove them from the fence. However, if you wanted to run something tall up against the fence you would need to remove them. Whereas the TS guides can swing up and retract out of the way altogether. To me that is not really an issue at all as it takes seconds to slide the router guides out and then a few more seconds to slide them back in.
I elected to use the TS guides because I do sometimes push large 8’ pieces through my TS and the implementation of this tool means that I don’t have to bother my wife to help me handle large sheets any longer. As you can see from the picture I have a Besemeyer style fence and I used mag locks to help me avoid putting any holes in the fence. It also allows for quick removal when I want to use one of my other jig / attachments. I got this mounting idea from Dave Stanton’s YouTube video on the subject. Dave also has another jig project for a Besemeyer style fence that incorporates a sacrificial fence face as well as t-slots that accommodate feather boards and / or Jessem’s router table guides.
Having said that I do love this use of the super-fence. In the past hours since first seeing this post I have found myself thinking up other uses for it in my shop.
Having said that I do love this use of the super-fence. In the past hours since first seeing this post I have found myself thinking up other uses for it in my shop.
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Alanbach said:
At some point you’ll want to get yourself a track saw of some kind. The track saws do a much better job breaking down large 8’ foot sheet goods.
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I know the Mag-locks are strong, I have a few of both sizes, but I don't know if I could trust them to hold down a workpiece on a table saw with just a pair of them stuck to the top of the fence. The fence is not very heavy gauge metal, so not a lot for the magnets to 'bite' into or grip. You might not be able to pull it off by hand, but I think the kickback forces generated by a 3 HP motor like the one on my saw will be stronger than a pair of mag-locks.
I have a Sawstop PCS (3HP) with their T Glide fence which is a Besemeyer style fence. The rectangular steel tube is quite substantial and I used Mag locks rated for 150 lbs. each. They are drilled down into the wooden mounting block such that they contact the fence directly. I would consider myself fairly safety obsessed and I have no fear whatsoever that my set up, combined with my saws splitter / guard, will work perfectly and as intended. The whole idea of the Jessem TS guides is to hold the work very firmly against the fence so as to prevent kickback. If used properly I have no concerns whatsoever that this set up is safe and efficient. I would be more concerned that the one way gears in the guide’s wheels would fail before those Maglocks would let go and I have no fear of that happening.
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Received the Jessum guides a couple days ago and I'm really impressed with the quality for $100. For any price really, they are just super nice. Added bonus is they fit the super track like they were designed for it.
20 minutes and 2 holes away for adding this one to the "to done" list. Okay, add 10 minutes to find the right fasteners.
Thanks again Matt.
RMW
20 minutes and 2 holes away for adding this one to the "to done" list. Okay, add 10 minutes to find the right fasteners.
Thanks again Matt.
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Worked a treat! Thanks 
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Richard/RMW said:
Richard, how can you possibly tolerate that margin of error??? [poke] [poke] [poke]
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Dusty.Tools said:Worked a treat! Thanks
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It appears that the leading and trailing guides are reversed in your setup from Jessem"s normal orientation. Does that make a difference in operation?
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Scott in Bend said:Dusty.Tools said:Worked a treat! Thanks
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It appears that the leading and trailing guides are reversed in your setup from Jessem"s normal orientation. Does that make a difference in operation?
Concur. Here's a shot of my CMS on which I use the stock guides. [smile]
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