VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?

[DynaGlide]

Welp that's a real shame then.

Do I bite the bullet and get the 2nd head now even though I have no current use for it?

Better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it especially if it’s being discontinued. Other wise you’ll be posting in the classifieds like so many others WTB

Also as a suggestion didn’t read the entire thread
Get the kit w the different sized heads to you’ll need them

I have both heads and the kit, I don’t frequently use the 2nd head but it sure comes in handy when I need it.
The kit with the different side heads i use  almost every project

Yep I sourced the 3 heads from Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.de separately a few years ago sans systainer and shaved off a good chunk of the cost.

 

[m8]

Called US Tool and Fastener this morning and placed an order for one of the remaining ones they have estimated to arrive next month.  If anyone is on the fence I suggest putting your order in ASAP. 

 

[GPowers]

Ordered the mounting bracket to mount the Sys Vac to the MFT today. I kept putting it off because of the cost, BUT I guess now is the time. It is now or never... [eek]

 

[Michael Kellough]

Ordered the mounting bracket to mount the Sys Vac to the MFT today. I kept putting it off because of the cost, BUT I guess now is the time. It is now or never... [eek]

I had the same thought but I can’t get a definite answer whether or not it will fit my old 1080 MFT.

 

[squall_line]

Ordered the mounting bracket to mount the Sys Vac to the MFT today. I kept putting it off because of the cost, BUT I guess now is the time. It is now or never... [eek]

I had the same thought but I can’t get a definite answer whether or not it will fit my old 1080 MFT.

Would measurements help?  I have a bracket and can take some measurements and/or pictures.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Ordered the mounting bracket to mount the Sys Vac to the MFT today. I kept putting it off because of the cost, BUT I guess now is the time. It is now or never... [eek]

I had the same thought but I can’t get a definite answer whether or not it will fit my old 1080 MFT.

Would measurements help?  I have a bracket and can take some measurements and/or pictures.

Measurement should do it. Distance from bottom of plate to center of slot cleats?

 

[Michael Kellough]

Ordered the mounting bracket to mount the Sys Vac to the MFT today. I kept putting it off because of the cost, BUT I guess now is the time. It is now or never... [eek]

I had the same thought but I can’t get a definite answer whether or not it will fit my old 1080 MFT.

Would measurements help?  I have a bracket and can take some measurements and/or pictures.

Measurement should do it. Distance from bottom of plate to center of slot cleats?

50mm from the top of the MFT 1080 to the middle of the T slot in the frame.

 

[squall_line]

I had the same thought but I can’t get a definite answer whether or not it will fit my old 1080 MFT.

Would measurements help?  I have a bracket and can take some measurements and/or pictures.

Measurement should do it. Distance from bottom of plate to center of slot cleats?

50mm from the top of the MFT 1080 to the middle of the T slot in the frame.

I'm glad you added the MFT 1080 measurement to the mix.

The bottom of the plate to the center of the t-nut for the MFT/3 is ~64mm, give or take (it's a cheap plastic caliper, and parallax, and bad eyes...)

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So I took off the screw to see if I could get a better angle and, lo and behold, a second set of holes (I obviously didn't remember this from setting it up two weeks ago).  The primary set is still around 63 or 64 mm...

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The "alternate" set is ~49.5mm, again accounting for poor measuring.  [big grin]

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Enjoy!

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] so it looks like the mount will fit both the MFT 1080/600 and the MFT 3 by using different set of holes?

 

[squall_line]

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] so it looks like the mount will fit both the MFT 1080/600 and the MFT 3 by using different set of holes?

[member=297]Michael Kellough[/member], yes, it looks like it should fit both, based on your measurements and the presence of the second set of holes.

I'm not saying I'll pay for your bracket if it doesn't happen to fit, but I'm 95% confident.

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] so it looks like the mount will fit both the MFT 1080/600 and the MFT 3 by using different set of holes?

[member=297]Michael Kellough[/member], yes, it looks like it should fit both, based on your measurements and the presence of the second set of holes.

I'm not saying I'll pay for your bracket if it doesn't happen to fit, but I'm 95% confident.

Good enough! Thanks.

 

[elfick]

This has really been occupying more of my mind than it should have... I didn't plan on getting one and then I was wondering if I should get one before it was too late just in case I started doing enough work that would benefit from it. In the end I decided I wasn't going to get it, but as I poked around I noticed that the VAC SYS pump sold in the rest of the world is WAY different than the one sold here. Not just 240 vs. 120, but it's apparently built into a classic systainer.
https://www.festool.co.uk/products/...amping-technology/580072---vac-sys-vp-gb-240v

So I'm thinking the reason we aren't hearing about this being discontinued in other countries is because they are only discontinuing the version sold in the US. Since it is a special snowflake as far as their VAC SYS line goes, it wouldn't surprise me to find out it was just more effort than it was worth. I'd think that would mean that accessories would continue to be available, just maybe not easily attainable.

 

[Cheese]

So I'm thinking the reason we aren't hearing about this being discontinued in other countries is because they are only discontinuing the version sold in the US. Since it is a special complainer as far as their VAC SYS line goes, it wouldn't surprise me to find out it was just more effort than it was worth. I'd think that would mean that accessories would continue to be available, just maybe not easily attainable.

Sorry it’s gone worldwide…see replies #2 & #4.  Per Festool, all remaining units are currently being shipped to the States.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...logue-for-2022/msg657060/?topicseen#msg657060

 

[GPowers]

There are also less expensive vacuum pumps that you can use. I did not buy the Festool one as a non Festool brand one was less than half what the official Festool one cost. I did need to buy some Festool hose connectors. The non-festool one does not have the vacuum reservoir. The Festool unit uses the tub frame as a reservoir.

 

[TinyShop]

So I'm thinking the reason we aren't hearing about this being discontinued in other countries is because they are only discontinuing the version sold in the US. Since it is a special complainer as far as their VAC SYS line goes, it wouldn't surprise me to find out it was just more effort than it was worth. I'd think that would mean that accessories would continue to be available, just maybe not easily attainable.

Sorry it’s gone worldwide…see replies #2 & #4.  Per Festool, all remaining units are currently being shipped to the States.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...logue-for-2022/msg657060/?topicseen#msg657060

The 120V system is going away. Meanwhile, the 240V system, which has never been made available in North America, presumably soldiers on. Think about it: why would the 240V version be headed to our shores? Obviously, it's not. And so, also obviously, FUSA is only referring to the 120V version. That said, the fact that the Vac Sys is absent from the 2022 international catalog spells a similar doom for our friends on the other side of the pond.

 

[elfick]

So I'm thinking the reason we aren't hearing about this being discontinued in other countries is because they are only discontinuing the version sold in the US. Since it is a special complainer as far as their VAC SYS line goes, it wouldn't surprise me to find out it was just more effort than it was worth. I'd think that would mean that accessories would continue to be available, just maybe not easily attainable.

Sorry it’s gone worldwide…see replies #2 & #4.  Per Festool, all remaining units are currently being shipped to the States.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...logue-for-2022/msg657060/?topicseen#msg657060

That's a bummer. I may have eventually gotten one, just couldn't justify it at this point. Thanks for pointing me to that thread.

 

[elfick]

There are also less expensive vacuum pumps that you can use. I did not buy the Festool one as a non Festool brand one was less than half what the official Festool one cost. I did need to buy some Festool hose connectors. The non-festool one does not have the vacuum reservoir. The Festool unit uses the tub frame as a reservoir.

So you still used the Festool heads, just with a different pump? Mind sharing what you used? If it's already in a thread somewhere just point me in the right direction and I'll get to reading. Thanks!

 

[Cheese]

The 120V system is going away.

Meanwhile, the 240V system, which has never been made available in North America, presumably soldiers on. Think about it: why would the 240V version be headed to our shores?

Obviously, it's not. And so, also obviously, FUSA is only referring to the 120V version.

That said, the fact that the Vac Sys is absent from the 2022 international catalog spells a similar doom for our friends on the other side of the pond.

It's difficult to know exactly where to start here. I never meant to suggest that the 240v vacuum pump was being sent to the US. That just doesn't make any sense, why would Festool send over that particular 240v item when they've never sent any other 240v item to the States?
I assumed that was quite obvious...if not, I apologize for leading others astray.

The poster elflick was just concerned/unsure of the current status of the Vac Sys and I was only trying to help him out with the facts.

Consider these statements...and spin it in any direction that you feel comfortable with.  [smile]
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/vac-sys-discontinued/60/

See reply #11
The official word from FUSA is...
Due to continued supply chain pressure, Festool is permanently phasing out our Vac-Sys Clamping Systems. All major Vac-Sys components have permanently ceased production and final inventory is in transit to North America.

See reply #77
If the statement is accurate, then it is not just North America. The Vac- Sys is not produced in North America.

I have no inside info ........... but the part in bold seems pretty definitive.

[member=71429]DerickC[/member]

Seth

And finally, there's the missing Vac Sys items in the latest, just released Festool corporate tool catalog for 2022.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Just to add to the confusion... my 120V Sys-Vac pump is in a classic Systainer  [tongue] hmm...

 

[Cheese]

Just to add to the confusion... my 120V Sys-Vac pump is in a classic Systainer  [tongue] hmm...

Did you purchase your pump from the UK? I don't remember the Systainer based pumps being offered in the US.