VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?

[zachjowi]

How well would this pump work with the cups?  I already have the pump from a really good deal I found but would like to use the Festool cups.  Thinking of trying to find the combo set of pump with sys1 and sys2 then sell the pump.
https://www.rockler.com/rockler-vacuum-pump

 

[squall_line]

The standalone Foot Valve comes with one port plugged and the other with a length of hose attached. Basically the same way it comes with the SE1, just without the SE1 attached on the end of the hose.  The setup sheet that comes with the foot valve shows that you plug the black plastic fitting on the end of the hose into the SE module and it clicks into place.

That's how mine came, at least.  Sometimes these things change from one year to the next.

That's good to know because Festool has never specified exactly what is included with the foot valve. Is there a quick disconnect on the end of the hose?

I'll grab some pictures this evening and probably measure the hose as well.  There's no gray quick-disconnect, just a black plastic bayonet fitting.

 

[mike_aa]

How well would this pump work with the cups?  I already have the pump from a really good deal I found but would like to use the Festool cups.  Thinking of trying to find the combo set of pump with sys1 and sys2 then sell the pump.
https://www.rockler.com/rockler-vacuum-pump

I can't vouch for how well this pump might work, but Veneer Supplies has a similar one for less money.  They also have higher capacity units and they are a great company to deal with.

Mike A.

 

[denovo]

That's good to know because Festool has never specified exactly what is included with the foot valve. Is there a quick disconnect on the end of the hose?

If I remember correctly it's not the large grey quick disconnect but there is something similar to the 1/4" water line quick disconnect on the back of the vacuum head.  You push in the retaining ring and pull out the hose with the plastic adapter tube.  To attach it you just push it in and it locks in place with a slight pull.

 

[squall_line]

Here's a picture of the way the foot valve arrives and a closeup of the directions on installing/using it.

I let the pedal sit on the ground and raised the hose up as high as it could go and it was a few inches taller than me.  I'm 5'10" on a good day, so I'd guess the hose is an honest 2 meters.

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[DynaGlide]

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] Does that sheet with the foot valve have a parts breakdown with #'s? I'm interested in the little black plastic piece that goes into the tubing.

Edit nevermind it's 471568.

 

[squall_line]

[member=75217]squall_line[/member] Does that sheet with the foot valve have a parts breakdown with #'s? I'm interested in the little black plastic piece that goes into the tubing.

Edit nevermind it's 471568.

Funnily enough, it only came with a diagram for hooking it to an SE1 or a diagram to use the short hose with the valve to hook it to both an SE1 and SE2.  No exploded diagram or parts list like you would find with so many of their other products.

Glad you were able to find it!

 

[Cheese]

Funnily enough, it only came with a diagram for hooking it to an SE1 or a diagram to use the short hose with the valve to hook it to both an SE1 and SE2.  No exploded diagram or parts list like you would find with so many of their other products.

Thanks for that [member=75217]squall_line[/member] ...that reminded me of how how the vac units are connected. I completely forgot about the connection down, underneath the bowels of the ship. Unseen by most persons. The Festo push-in connectors are great but they don't allow a lot of room for finger movement and fitting disengagement.

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[rst]

I modified my set so that I could disconnect the hoses, making storage easier.  8 mm tubing is cheap as are push/pull fittings.  I buy part from Automation direct for my tinkering and creative engineering

 

[guybo]

Hi, they make a tool.guy

 

[vkumar]

So I've done a little research and think I found something similar that will work (at least for me) It's the Virutex multiple fastening system, it uses compressed air instead of a vacuum, but is a very simple and affordable design that tilts and swivels.  You can also add multiple head units and get an option so you can vacuum it down to a work surface, it also uses a readily available rubber seal on the head.

Interesting.  Do you have any links?

 

[Samo]

Merry Christmas  [big grin]
https://www.virutextools.com/multiple-fastening-fystem-tilting-swivelling-svn460-pid349

 

[rst]

I bought the basic units and mounted them on bar stool swivels

 

[Rjk75]

Do we know what psi and cfm it requires?

 

[HowardH]

Yeah I know you can cobble something together with other company's products. I just like the robustness of the Vac Sys pivoting head.

I have the entire system. Don't know how I lived without it.  However, I have both heads and have never even opened the box on one of them.  I would be willing to part with one is someone needs/wants it. 

 

[Bugsysiegals]

I was hoping to grab one of these during the recon last year and missed out.  I can't find anybody with the set ... anybody know where I can find one?  It seems TN might have some for pre-order Jan 22' so I'll keep an eye out.

About the set, it seems many of you don't care for the pump and only the heads ... if I buy the set is there a reason to sell the pump and get something else?

Besides edge banding where you can't clamp the piece down are there any other really good uses for these?

 

[Cheese]

I was hoping to grab one of these during the recon last year and missed out.  I can't find anybody with the set ... anybody know where I can find one?  It seems TN might have some for pre-order Jan 22' so I'll keep an eye out.

Besides edge banding where you can't clamp the piece down are there any other really good uses for these?

Shane has already stated that all of the TN product, even the yet to arrive product, has been spoken for. He said the only exception would be if anyone cancelled their order. Maybe TN has a waitlist option?

US Tool & Fastener had some available...

I use mine for sanding and for Dominoing, I don't have to futz around with clamping boards down, it makes things a lot easier & faster.

 

[DynaGlide]

Vac Sys gets used on every project in the shop. I've cautioned before though, gotta have a dedicated setup or it won't get used enough to justify it. Starting out it was too much of a PITA to setup for some quick sanding or whatever. Faster to grab some clamps.

 

[Bugsysiegals]

Thanks [member=44099]Cheese[/member] … US Tool & Fastener are out of stock … I subscribed to TN back in stock alert … not sure if that’s enough or not.  I’ve called around 20 or more dealers within an hour and nobody has one in stock as it seems a slow seller.  Wondering if I should continue to extend the search and hope some local unknown to the internet dealer happens to have brought one in which didn’t sell and probably has older manufacture date?

 

[DynaGlide]

Does anyone have a slick design for their Vac Sys mount?

I know Sedge uses a drop in style that relies on the suction of the heads to secure it in place:



Mine is just bolted to 1.5" thick laminated plywood that secures to t-track:

With the 2nd head I'm starting to think about if I want to modify how I secure the units in some sort of height adjustable fashion. I guess I could put a second set of holes where the knobs go to drop it down giving me two height settings. Curious to see if anyone has done something with t-track to give variable height adjustment.

Matt