Video: Comparison of the ETS EC 125/3 EQ and ETS 125 EQ

FWIW...I was sanding some end grain 2X material today with the ETS EC 125 and because I can become lazy from time to time, I decided to "wear down" some of that end grain rather than just go downstairs and grab the Rotex 125. I was quite impressed...the ETS EC does a splendid job of removing a significant amount of material. Much better than the older ETS 125 that I have. Also interesting is that I decided to use some 100 grit Abranet for this job. I normally use Granat but just decided to try the Abranet...pleasantly surprised, I will probably be trying more of the Abranet abrasives.
 
>>>Now to fully inundate you with information, here is my take on how the ets-ec 125 fits the overall family of Festool sanders:
http://topcoatreview.com/2015/09/festool-ets-ec-125/

We have been studying the 6" versions and should have some info out on those soon as well.

Hope you have had a good winter...not much plowing or snowboarding here in Vermont this year. Hopefully mud season goes quick and painlessly!
 
Cheese said:
FWIW...I was sanding some end grain 2X material today with the ETS EC 125 and because I can become lazy from time to time, I decided to "wear down" some of that end grain rather than just go downstairs and grab the Rotex 125. I was quite impressed...the ETS EC does a splendid job of removing a significant amount of material. Much better than the older ETS 125 that I have. Also interesting is that I decided to use some 100 grit Abranet for this job. I normally use Granat but just decided to try the Abranet...pleasantly surprised, I will probably be trying more of the Abranet abrasives.
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[member=44099]Cheese[/member]
DUDE !!!!  I forgot all about the Mirka Abranet paper..... [doh]
Thanks for the reminder and feedback. 

Eric
 
So a question regarding that dust collector shutoff "safety" feature: When you go through that rigamarole of getting it shut off, does it stay off or does it default to on? If you have to do that every time it'd probably be a deal breaker for me. 
 
Mort said:
So a question regarding that dust collector shutoff "safety" feature: When you go through that rigamarole of getting it shut off, does it stay off or does it default to on? If you have to do that every time it'd probably be a deal breaker for me.
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[member=46908]Mort[/member]

When you turn it off, it stays off.    When you turn it on....it stays on.    You do not have to go through the rigamarole each time.
If you want it off, set it up the first time and it will stay off. 

Eric
 
Tinker said:
quote from my original question to Eric >>>I realize when comparing a 125 to a 150, it is not exactly apples to apples, but I am sure you have a feeling, or others will chime in with the answer.  Also, how does the EQ compare to the RO for taking down rough material in a hurry? 
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Holmz said:
One really needs to try them to feel the handling. The RO was easier than I was expecting, but it is it an easy sander to use for the beginner. The ETS EQ is idiot proof in comparison.

I have not quantified removal speed, but the RO has more power. The RO also runs at a slower orbit RPM, but a 150 is ~50% larger in area than then 125. And the ETS EQ runs at a higher RPM. Is one compared the ETS EC 150 it gets easier.

If you are just using the weight of the tool, then the RO has twice as much weight.
Unless you are pushing into the material hard enough to work the motor, then the higher RPM will produce a higher rate of removal at a fixed pressure.

Once one gets to rotary mode, then the RO is a different beast. But 500W is not that much more than 400W, and the speed is different at the outside of the pad in rotary.
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Nice how you're so opinionated about something you only fondled in the store.

Rotex is much faster than any random orbit sander. Rotary mode makes all the difference. Your watts and RPM equation has little influence. People who actually use the tools know what Erock said is right.
 
How does one "rate" a tool.
I gave an opinion from the perspective of a beginner, and I said so.
If one is buying the tool for beginner use, then they would be advised to try the tool IMO.

As far as being faster, the question is "how much?"
And is it only faster on Rotex?
How fast is it in non-Rotex mode?
 
Holmz said:
How does one "rate" a tool.
I gave an opinion from the perspective of a beginner, and I said so.
If one is buying the tool for beginner use, then they would be advised to try the tool IMO.

As far as being faster, the question is "how much?"
And is it only faster on Rotex?
How fast is it in non-Rotex mode?
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[member=40772]Holmz[/member]

Here is a good basic explanation of working with Rotex:http://topcoatreview.com/2015/12/rotex-sanders/

Sometimes it is hard to cover all the nuances in video, so we still write!  [big grin]

Let me know if you have questions on the learning curve in the different modes.
 
Thanks [member=13337]Scott Burt[/member] , it is the RAS that I find more intriguing than the RO... And the belt sander.
 
[member=13337]Scott Burt[/member]

Another great article.  [thumbs up] 

When I first started woodworking I had a Craftsman 5" sander.  Buying cheap paper from Home Depot.....LOTS of cheap paper...LOL !

Eric
 
erock said:
[member=13337]Scott Burt[/member]

Another great article.  [thumbs up] 

When I first started woodworking I had a Craftsman 5" sander.  Buying cheap paper from Home Depot.....LOTS of cheap paper...LOL !

Eric
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Thanks [member=8352]erock[/member] and congrats on the new shop, it looks like a suitable man cave!
 
Thanks for the great article Scott.  You do manage to insert a bit of humor in many of your very serious and descriptive articles.  I had to chuckle a little when you mentioned head and tail operation.  For those who have not arrived at an understanding with an RO sander, you do need to know that in one handed operation, or with two handed operation of the RO sanders, you cannot steer those machines.  You definitely need to arrive at the understanding. If you try to force the direction, it will just laugh at you.  Not a mirthful laugh.  More of a dirisive laugh much as the Joker as he is putting one over on BatMan.
Tinker
 
Tinker said:
Thanks for the great article Scott.  You do manage to insert a bit of humor in many of your very serious and descriptive articles.  I had to chuckle a little when you mentioned head and tail operation.  For those who have not arrived at an understanding with an RO sander, you do need to know that in one handed operation, or with two handed operation of the RO sanders, you cannot steer those machines.  You definitely need to arrive at the understanding. If you try to force the direction, it will just laugh at you.  Not a mirthful laugh.  More of a dirisive laugh much as the Joker as he is putting one over on BatMan.
Tinker
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Thanks [member=550]Tinker[/member], yes we have to have fun with tools and projects and think about them in practical terms.

 
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