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Probably 3,900, I think it's comparable to the Protool speed.
Video of new tl15 impact driver
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I don't think you can judge the 100 Nm torque output on the Festool until it has been put to the test. I have two impact drivers, a 12v Dewalt and a 10.8v Bosch. They are both rated at very close to 100 Nm but there is absolutely no comparison between the tools. The Bosch is worse than useless. I also demoed my Dewalt when I was round an old bosses house by driving 17mm head coach bolts into an oak post with no pilot hole. I also removed the wheel nuts on his big ATV. He was really impressed but decided to go out and buy a theoretically better specced Panasoninc or Hitachi. I can't remember what he got but he was very disappointed when he found his new toy wouldn't accomplish either of the exact same tasks the Dewalt had.
Hi Shane.
I have just read the specifications from that Dutch website that showed the video.
Speed range....2600. I assume this relates to the drill speed with no load.
Stroke speed range....2400 - 3600. I assume this relates to the impact speed.
Max Torque in Impact mode....100 Nm. I hope Festool have under rated this figure as opposed to over rated figures sometimes supplied by other Tool Companies.
Justin.
I have just read the specifications from that Dutch website that showed the video.
Speed range....2600. I assume this relates to the drill speed with no load.
Stroke speed range....2400 - 3600. I assume this relates to the impact speed.
Max Torque in Impact mode....100 Nm. I hope Festool have under rated this figure as opposed to over rated figures sometimes supplied by other Tool Companies.
Justin.
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fritter63 said:
Yes.
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fritter63 said:
Sorry, I didn't see the question. There is an "interface chuck", for lack of a better term, that connects to the TI 15 that overrides the impact functionality. It's about 20mm long or so, and with that installed you can connect any of the FastFix chucks for use like a regular drill/driver.
So, yes, it will work.
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I love the extra magnetic bit/screw storage on the side, sweet! [thumbs up]
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Hi,
these clips are part of my Ti15 Impact tool- review in german. You can find this at:
http://heiko-rech.de/werkstatt/ti15impact.php
and a few more other tool- reviews under:
http://heiko-rech.de/werkstatt/test.php
Heiko
leejakob said:
these clips are part of my Ti15 Impact tool- review in german. You can find this at:
http://heiko-rech.de/werkstatt/ti15impact.php
and a few more other tool- reviews under:
http://heiko-rech.de/werkstatt/test.php
Heiko
i think it is indeed correct that the "naked" ti 15 comes in a sys 3, since it says on the german website that there is room for the set version of one of the c or t drills in the systainer of the "basic" ti 15 version.
speed range is 0-2600 rpm.
also, festool now makes specialized impact bits that are supposed to last longer.
the german price for the set version is 660€, basic is around 310€.
thats 350€ for the charger, a second battery, the drilling clutch, centrotec clutch and the 90 degree clutch.
so what do you think?
im a bit thrown off by the thought of always putting on a different chuck to drill a hole. thats not the case of course while using the centrotec chuck. but there is no way of changing from impact driving to non impact drilling without changeing chucks. that does not make it a whole lot better than any other impact driver in my opinion since you would probably take another cordless drill with you anyways. so why bother getting an impact driver that can, theoretically, drill holes, too?
on the other hand, if you can change your workflow in a way that you can drill all the holes first, then take off the chuck and impact drive all the screws, that would be good, of course. but well, my conclusion so far: it is a very specialized tool, even if it pretends to be an all-in-one-tool. its niche is driving A LOT of long, big screws without pilot holes as far as i can see...
oh and one question, maybe for heiko to answer, since he already has one:
what does the ti 15 do, when you use the centrotec chuck in impact mode with a drill bit? is it even possible to drill a hole like this in wood?
speed range is 0-2600 rpm.
also, festool now makes specialized impact bits that are supposed to last longer.
the german price for the set version is 660€, basic is around 310€.
thats 350€ for the charger, a second battery, the drilling clutch, centrotec clutch and the 90 degree clutch.
so what do you think?
im a bit thrown off by the thought of always putting on a different chuck to drill a hole. thats not the case of course while using the centrotec chuck. but there is no way of changing from impact driving to non impact drilling without changeing chucks. that does not make it a whole lot better than any other impact driver in my opinion since you would probably take another cordless drill with you anyways. so why bother getting an impact driver that can, theoretically, drill holes, too?
on the other hand, if you can change your workflow in a way that you can drill all the holes first, then take off the chuck and impact drive all the screws, that would be good, of course. but well, my conclusion so far: it is a very specialized tool, even if it pretends to be an all-in-one-tool. its niche is driving A LOT of long, big screws without pilot holes as far as i can see...
oh and one question, maybe for heiko to answer, since he already has one:
what does the ti 15 do, when you use the centrotec chuck in impact mode with a drill bit? is it even possible to drill a hole like this in wood?
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I'm sure you can drill a hole with the impact (remember there is no impact on the drill bit at all). The problem with drill bit bits in impact drivers is all the torque, it can be really hard on the bits.
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Hallo,
That's everything right. But in the same time you change a centrotec bit, you alos change the FX- chuck. The only thing you need ist a second Centrotec chuck. You put one chuck at the adapter and put the drill in. in the second chuck you put the bit- holder with the bit.
O.K. this is not the best way to switsch between drilling ans screwing. You think right, wenn you say that the best way to do this, you drill all the holes and then begin with the screwing.
The benefit of the Ti15 is to drive many middle long screws very quick without burdening the wrist
I use the Ti15 in combination with my CXS and it works great. Before i use my wired drill i use the Ti15 to drill teh most holes in the shop.
Next year i make a lot of woodworking in the garden (a deck and a fence) and i think the Ti15 ist the right tool for this jobs.
Heiko
mosez said:
That's everything right. But in the same time you change a centrotec bit, you alos change the FX- chuck. The only thing you need ist a second Centrotec chuck. You put one chuck at the adapter and put the drill in. in the second chuck you put the bit- holder with the bit.
O.K. this is not the best way to switsch between drilling ans screwing. You think right, wenn you say that the best way to do this, you drill all the holes and then begin with the screwing.
The benefit of the Ti15 is to drive many middle long screws very quick without burdening the wrist
I use the Ti15 in combination with my CXS and it works great. Before i use my wired drill i use the Ti15 to drill teh most holes in the shop.
Next year i make a lot of woodworking in the garden (a deck and a fence) and i think the Ti15 ist the right tool for this jobs.
In this case you make a hole, not a precise drilling [big grin]. In most cases is this what you want do do and it works good enough.mosez said:
Heiko
Why the comparison between CXS and the Ti? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the Ti 15 to the T15 or (more equally priced) T18?
Also, there is a basic version that comes in a systainer with room for all the parts of a C15 Set / T15 Set,
see here:
Also, there is a basic version that comes in a systainer with room for all the parts of a C15 Set / T15 Set,
see here:
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Hi,
Heiko
The cxs is for light work an the ti15 for drilling and the heavy stuffCoen said:
Heiko
i bought a ti15 today and tried it out on some basic driving and drilling.
it drives screws a bit slow, but it can handle incredibly big ones without predrilling in impact mode.
drilling in impact mode is not a problem at all, like heiko said, it is fair enough, although VERY loud at around 93db.
what really disappointed me, though:
in non-impact mode (for noise-reductions sake) it does not drive a 5x50 screw without predrilling in pine. it even had difficulties with a 4x20.
i consider that pretty standard, since the c15 is up to WAY bigger screws no problem.
from a technical point of view: why does the ti 15 lack torque so hard in non-impact mode? i hoped that it would be comparable to a non-impact 15 volt driver. it sure isnt though. thats what heikos forstner bit drilling clearly shows as well: when drilling a bigger diameter hole, the lack of torque makes it a very slow task, relying only on the higher rpm (thats what it says in the video, too).
i will give it another shot should i have done any major stupidities, but i think, the ti 15 is just not my cup of tea. i do not consider it as all-round as it is being promoted.
it drives screws a bit slow, but it can handle incredibly big ones without predrilling in impact mode.
drilling in impact mode is not a problem at all, like heiko said, it is fair enough, although VERY loud at around 93db.
what really disappointed me, though:
in non-impact mode (for noise-reductions sake) it does not drive a 5x50 screw without predrilling in pine. it even had difficulties with a 4x20.
i consider that pretty standard, since the c15 is up to WAY bigger screws no problem.
from a technical point of view: why does the ti 15 lack torque so hard in non-impact mode? i hoped that it would be comparable to a non-impact 15 volt driver. it sure isnt though. thats what heikos forstner bit drilling clearly shows as well: when drilling a bigger diameter hole, the lack of torque makes it a very slow task, relying only on the higher rpm (thats what it says in the video, too).
i will give it another shot should i have done any major stupidities, but i think, the ti 15 is just not my cup of tea. i do not consider it as all-round as it is being promoted.
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mosez said:
Good feedback, please be sure to keep us posted after you've gotten more time to use it. Thanks.
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I don't hate to say it, so, I told you so. It tries to be everything to everyone and it's huge compared to a typical impact driver we use here in the states. They should have just produced a separate impact driver, built with the typical Festool quality without trying to go overboard reinventing the wheel.
