Video of new tl15 impact driver

yep started late in life !  but glad I started.  prior was a professional sales person I owned an insurance agency for 17 years  sold it and did some other sales for 9 years and then started doing carpentry and handyman stuff.
 
What's the pros and cons of ti15 vs a regular t15?

Or which one should you buy?

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honeydokreg said:
yankee said:
bosch video  

i have the plain bosch impact and have been very happy with it, 18 volts. They keep adding great tools to that same battery line. New 16 gauge cordless nailer out now too that uses the same battery i might have to try out.

i love all my festoons that i have. but as far as drills go i feel they are a waste of money, plenty of other drills out there just as good for far less money.


which other drill out there can you remove the chuck and replace it with and offset clutch?  which one can you remove the chuck and replace it with a 90 degree chuck?  I have lots of drills and over the last 12 years have probably bought 60+ drills  and yes Bosch has good drills along with makita and Milwaukee.  there impacts are very good drills  but if you look at the over all package you get from festool it is good value for the dollars you spend. 

yes they are on the top of the line price point but for value received I feel that it is a fair price.  just my opinion.

60 drills?  I have 4 guys on my crew the last 10 years and haven't needed that many drills.  And i have yet to need any right angle attachments over the years. The mind is a much more powerful tool then any power tool. and you will be surprised at how if you use it you do not need most of those attachments that are for working yourself out of a corner you put yourself in.
 
yankee said:
and you will be surprised at how if you use it you do not need most of those attachments that are for working yourself out of a corner you put yourself in.

Hehe, you're on a stroll, aren't you yankee? Trying to offend as much in as less posts possible. I have no idea why praising the special chucks needs a stab at someone's competence for an answer.

I'm not one of those people who blindly praise Festool whenever the occasion arises. I feel that often the added value of the extra chucks is greatly exaggerated here. Nevertheless there are situations you encounter once in a while where those things come in really handy, and not because you're a poor craftsman or you made a mistake, but simply because it's the only way it can be done.

It has absolutelty nothing to do with your own skills when you find you have to work on an existing situation where one thing, over the years, is built/placed in front of another thing. What once was installed with great ease is now obstructed and there's only limited space left to get a tool in. The right angle chuck can come in really handy in this situation.

I had to remove a couple of small windows last week, just 20 cm / 8'' wide. And somebody installed a wooden 2x2 over them for structural reinforcement of the partially rotten structure. With my right angle chuck I managed to get my drill in the remaining 4'' gap. I'm sure I would have managed this job some other way, but not as clean and fast as now.

I prefer Festool drills over anything else because of the Centrotec system, not especially the extra chucks. They're a nice extra, but there are other, cheaper ways to get to the same result in the rare occasions you need them. Nevertheless, those other, cheaper ways might cost you a lot extra time because they're not so 'out of the box' as Festool's solution. A factor to figure in if you're a professional, for whom, after all, time is money.

But the quick change Centroted system ...... well, I haven't seen any replacement for that.
 
+1 with Alex.

Sure you don't need the right angle attachment very often, but when you do, it's the best thing for the job.

 
+1 one for Alex!

I have been on jobs where clients have changed their minds to alter something OR wanted something added!

Few of HUNDREDS of examples I have needed the angle chuck in the past!

Fitting a custom made kitchen and their was this unit which was only 100mm wide open with no door it was just for putting trays in   they decided they wanted shelves fitted instead!   The kitchen was veneered oak panels with oak 40mm solid of facing  well the shelves had to be the same their where no holes or anything in this unit as it wasnt made to have shelves!  So I had to fix a 20mm timber to the sides to put the 18mm veneered MDF shelve with 40mm oak front on.  The festool T15 helped me out loads with the angle chuck to get in!   To me that aint bad craftmanship! I dont know about you Yankee but how else would you of done it use some double sided sticky tape as that to me is bad craft mans ship OR spend time removing the unit and taking it apart again waisting time just to drill fix 2 shelves!

The thing is YES things can be done in different ways but something like the T15 with angle chuck  does it quicker why waist time? When it can be done quicker and in a lot of cases BETTER

Another kitchen!Just a standard Howdens kitchen Fitting cornice on wall units on top of the units !  Well the cornice was pretty close to the ceiling just 3inch from the ceiling so how would you fix it?  Well you Yankee would have to fix it through the unit from inside which to me is poor craftsmanship as seeing screws is horrible!   Their is NO other quick way to fix it apart from screwing above or below   well my T15 still allowed me to fix it from above!     Maybe you could glue it and clamp it? AGAIN why waist time if it can be done quicker and BETTER

Another Kitchen again!  I went to do this job to do a work top change the client didnt want a new kitchen just new work top and a few units and this horrible built in extractor made with plaster and bits of wood!   Well if I did not have the T15 I would of had to remove all the units around the extractor to get it out but with my FEIN and my T15 angle chuck I was able to cut wood and remove the screws leaving everything around intact! No damage done!  Well you yankee would of had to waist time in removing all the units or causing damage to me bad craft mans ship.

Also she asked me to look at the plinth/kick board as it kept moving in on the corner I removed the plinth and the tradesmen before had not fixed a leg to catch the plinth!  I was able to get a new leg from Howdens cut the tip off which aligns it in the holes so I made it flush  and using my T15 I was able to fix the leg and now the plinth kick board has something to fix to!

Okay maybe you could of used a very short screw driver??? Well be my guest you waist more time using something like that.

JMB

 
honeydokreg said:
yankee said:
bosch video  

i have the plain bosch impact and have been very happy with it, 18 volts. They keep adding great tools to that same battery line. New 16 gauge cordless nailer out now too that uses the same battery i might have to try out.

i love all my festoons that i have. but as far as drills go i feel they are a waste of money, plenty of other drills out there just as good for far less money.


which other drill out there can you remove the chuck and replace it with and offset clutch?  which one can you remove the chuck and replace it with a 90 degree chuck?  I have lots of drills and over the last 12 years have probably bought 60+ drills  and yes Bosch has good drills along with makita and Milwaukee.  there impacts are very good drills  but if you look at the over all package you get from festool it is good value for the dollars you spend.  

yes they are on the top of the line price point but for value received I feel that it is a fair price.  just my opinion.


Thats crazy dude!  A drill should last you ATLEAST 1 year  and festool will atleast last 3years cus of the 3 year warranty!

So lets say you buy a lot of 1 year warrenty battery drills!

So at least they will last you a year!   A normal carpenter joiner has/uses 3/4 drills    well times 12 by 4 that is 48 drills over 12 years!  Your saying 60 +   PLUS +   dude what are you doing with them?   Most drills have more than 1 year warranty  so should be lasting you longer.

If you had all Festool only lets say 4 of them   that would mean every 3 years  when the warranty ran out which would be the minimum life span of the drills you would need another 4 drills after 3 years.   So meaning you would only replace 4 drills 4 times over 12 years so 16 drills.      Im sure bosch and many other brands have more than 1 year warrenty also so I cant understand how you have 60 PLUS + drills

Can you list all 60 plus drills as I am struggle to believe you have had that many!  You must of made many bad drill choices and not learned from your mistake over and over again. [tongue]

What drills you been buying black&decker?  Dewalt? [tongue]

I have been in the trade for 6 years I have 7 cordless drills!   I only need the 3 mains ones    the other 4 I have was 1 as a birthday present 1 was my first drill when I started joinery/carpentry  and the other 2 where just bought I don't like them I made a mistake wish I didnt buy them and I dont use them and gave them to my mum to have in her tool box.   So im half way through your 12 years  so if I go on how I have done I properly only be at 14 drills or less in 12 years and I use my drills heavy!

JMB

JMB
 
Kreg didn't say that he went through 60+ drills.  He said he probably purchased around 60+ drills.  Maybe he likes many different types of drills, some have a specific purpose, others might be duplicates.  Some people collect tons of routers.  Brice steals collects Festool pencils from the training center.  JMB, you collect shoes (from what I saw of the garage).  Who cares?  What's the big deal?  To each his/her own.  Me, I'm collecting dust.

Lighten up guys.
 
Ken Nagrod said:
Kreg didn't say that he went through 60+ drills.  He said he probably purchased around 60+ drills.  Maybe he likes many different types of drills, some have a specific purpose, others might be duplicates.  Some people collect tons of routers.  Brice steals collects Festool pencils from the training center.  JMB, you collect shoes (from what I saw of the garage).  Who cares?  What's the big deal?  To each his/her own.  Me, I'm collecting dust.

Lighten up guys.

Im not angry dude! Im just  [scared]!  Cant believe sooooooooo many!   Any way dude your wrong I collect Festool and Protool and Milwaukee oh I collect tools in general lol!    I got a new Toys I need to actually post on my Topic  and a few more Toys coming soon to add also! heehee!

JMB
 
jmbfestool said:
Im not angry dude! Im just  [scared]!  Cant believe sooooooooo many!   Any way dude your wrong I collect Festool and Protool and Milwaukee oh I collect tools in general lol!    I got a new Toys I need to actually post on my Topic  and a few more Toys coming soon to add also! heehee!

JMB

One of these better be the Domino XL and video forthcoming. [big grin]
 
jmbfestool said:
+1 one for Alex!

I have been on jobs where clients have changed their minds to alter something OR wanted something added!

Few of HUNDREDS of examples I have needed the angle chuck in the past!

Fitting a custom made kitchen and their was this unit which was only 100mm wide open with no door it was just for putting trays in   they decided they wanted shelves fitted instead!   The kitchen was veneered oak panels with oak 40mm solid of facing  well the shelves had to be the same their where no holes or anything in this unit as it wasnt made to have shelves!  So I had to fix a 20mm timber to the sides to put the 18mm veneered MDF shelve with 40mm oak front on.  The festool T15 helped me out loads with the angle chuck to get in!   To me that aint bad craftmanship! I dont know about you Yankee but how else would you of done it use some double sided sticky tape as that to me is bad craft mans ship OR spend time removing the unit and taking it apart again waisting time just to drill fix 2 shelves!

The thing is YES things can be done in different ways but something like the T15 with angle chuck  does it quicker why waist time? When it can be done quicker and in a lot of cases BETTER

Another kitchen!Just a standard Howdens kitchen Fitting cornice on wall units on top of the units !  Well the cornice was pretty close to the ceiling just 3inch from the ceiling so how would you fix it?  Well you Yankee would have to fix it through the unit from inside which to me is poor craftsmanship as seeing screws is horrible!   Their is NO other quick way to fix it apart from screwing above or below   well my T15 still allowed me to fix it from above!     Maybe you could glue it and clamp it? AGAIN why waist time if it can be done quicker and BETTER

Another Kitchen again!  I went to do this job to do a work top change the client didnt want a new kitchen just new work top and a few units and this horrible built in extractor made with plaster and bits of wood!   Well if I did not have the T15 I would of had to remove all the units around the extractor to get it out but with my FEIN and my T15 angle chuck I was able to cut wood and remove the screws leaving everything around intact! No damage done!  Well you yankee would of had to waist time in removing all the units or causing damage to me bad craft mans ship.

Also she asked me to look at the plinth/kick board as it kept moving in on the corner I removed the plinth and the tradesmen before had not fixed a leg to catch the plinth!  I was able to get a new leg from Howdens cut the tip off which aligns it in the holes so I made it flush  and using my T15 I was able to fix the leg and now the plinth kick board has something to fix to!

Okay maybe you could of used a very short screw driver??? Well be my guest you waist more time using something like that.

JMB

Don't hold back JMB  [big grin]
 
i have to agree . the extra chucks are great. i dont have any but will soon. i have (had untill i used it with my impact [blink]) a small 90 degree atachment, worked ok. i cant count the times its got me out of a tight spot [wink] [big grin]. the thing i often find is that you can get the drill on the head when it in but as it comes out you run out of space very fast. usually when your hand is behind it [crying]
 
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