What Can I Get Rid Of

[pjblues]

I have went all in for the Festool system except for the Kapex. Since woodworking is a hobby for me I have the usual equipment, table saw, planer, jointer, sander, drill press, etc. Now I have the Festool equipment. Is it true that with the Festool equipment one does not need the other equipment? I just sold my Hitachi 12 compound miter saw and Woodpecker router system. What else can I get rid of? As you folks know I am only about 45 days into the Festool system but have spent a lot of money on it.

Thanks.

 

[grbmds]

If you have the room keep all of it till you can determine what you don't use. I would absolutely keep the jointer and planer. Depending on what type of sander, you might want to keep that. I can't think of anything in the Festool line that would replace these and get the same results with the same effort. The table saw is a question. You will get answers on both sides of that. For now, I've kept my old table saw in the corner even though I have a TS 55REQ and MFT table. I am thinking of getting rid of it though since I have only used it once since I bought the TS 55; for dadoing. However, I could have done the dadoes with the 1400 router using the Festool track on the table. It's a learning experience, but I find that I believe in the table saw less and less.
If the sander is a random orbit, then getting a Festool sander would likely give you much better results than others and better dust collection. If it's something like a drum sander, you would likely want to kept that. Any other tools, like a band saw and drill press, I would recommend keeping also.

 

[firepilot]

If your not in a pinch I'd say keep what you have for now. I really enjoy working with my Festool collection but the tools you have will still be used if your breaking down wood into machinable stock.

I can do many things with the Festool, but somethings are easier and faster the "old" way. You can always sell stuff later.

I am new as well and was going to sell my table saw right off. I'm glad I kept my table saw, and wish I had a planer. The track saw is very nice to get a straight edge on a piece of lumber. For me easier than a joiner. I can drill cup hinges with my LR-32 but its easier and quicker with my drill press. Ripping toe kick and narrow fillers is faster for me on the table saw.

I do like my oversize MFT and making square parts using the Track saw, and rail dogs over the table saw.

There are lots of ways to skin a cat. I think having several options available you will figure out what works for you. Thats all that really matters anyway.

Thats just my opinion as another Festool newbie, and former cabinet shop owner. Still wish I had a sliding table saw... Just built a really nice kitchen for my wife with my Festools and a few other things. If you have the space to keep the other tools ease into it, and enjoy the ride.

Phil

 

[Wonderwino]

If you have a biscuit joiner, dump it, especially if you have a Domino.  I finally sold my old Freud JS100 the other day after not touching it for years.  The sooner you sell the stuff you don't need, the more it will bring.  Someday those other tools will just be fishing weights when everyone else is using Festool!  [scared]  [big grin]

 

[shed9]

All depends on what you want to make - that should be the driver, not the allegiance to the dark side  [smile]

The Woodepecker routing system is a decent product and in my opinion superior to the Festool fixed router options. Can I ask why you ditched that?

 

[jackandhenry]

If you have a biscuit joiner, dump it, especially if you have a Domino.  I finally sold my old Freud JS100 the other day after not touching it for years.  The sooner you sell the stuff you don't need, the more it will bring.  Someday those other tools will just be fishing weights when everyone else is using Festool!   [scared]  [big grin]

Actually the biscuit joiner is great for doing grooves for magic fingers for removable partitions. I use it for that purpose and it works great!! So there are tools out there that are not festal that still are very useful in the cabinet/furniture building world. I own a ton of festool stuff and love it all but nothing beats a Martin sliding table saw or jointer. Everything still has a purpose in some way or another. Cheers

Justin-

 

[grbmds]

The temptation might be to get rid of a lot of tools and consolidate, but I still would go with my original feeling that keep all you can keep until you decide what you really need and don't need. The jointer and planer would be a must to keep. A biscuit joiner isn't something I'd bother trying to sell. Even if you only use it rarely it may come in handy and you won't get enough from selling it to make it worthwhile to sell. I still think it has it's uses but probably won't get used much with a Domino.

 

[Stephen B]

The temptation might be to get rid of a lot of tools and consolidate, but I still would go with my original feeling that keep all you can keep until you decide what you really need and don't need. The jointer and planer would be a must to keep. A biscuit joiner isn't something I'd bother trying to sell. Even if you only use it rarely it may come in handy and you won't get enough from selling it to make it worthwhile to sell. I still think it has it's uses but probably won't get used much with a Domino.

[size=11pt]
I have kept my table saw, thicknesses and planer. These are particularly useful for quick ripping, and resizing recycled and air dried  hardwoods.

I am looking at selling other items and I am consolidating the number of drills, and definitely selling what Festool has replaced. Eg. Old sanders.

 

[JeromeM]

I have went all in for the Festool system except for the Kapex. Since woodworking is a hobby for me I have the usual equipment, table saw, planer, jointer, sander, drill press, etc.

Now I have the Festool equipment. Is it true that with the Festool equipment one does not need the other equipment?

No.  There are some tools Festool dosen't replace and there are some tools where having more than one or two is useful. For example variable speed drills and routers.

There are others where it an easy yes, for me my old Elu ¼ sheet sander that produces too much dust and vibration.

I just sold my Hitachi 12 compound miter saw and Woodpecker router system. What else can I get rid of? As you folks know I am only about 45 days into the Festool system but have spent a lot of money on it.
Thanks.

The things you can get rid of are the ones you stop using and needing and it will be different for each person.

 

[pjblues]

Wow, everyone's postings made sense. I did not like my WoodPecker routing system so I did not use it. I guess I will keep my table saw, planer, and jointer for awhile based on everyone's comments. I do plan on getting the Rotek 150 this weekend so I am pretty sure that is all I will need. I may be able to sell my Jet 12" combination, belt, and disc sander.

Thanks everyone for your comments.

 

[Paul G]

Wow, everyone's postings made sense. I did not like my WoodPecker routing system so I did not use it. I guess I will keep my table saw, planer, and jointer for awhile based on everyone's comments. I do plan on getting the Rotek 150 this weekend so I am pretty sure that is all I will need. I may be able to sell my Jet 12" combination, belt, and disc sander.

Thanks everyone for your comments.

If you have room for that sander and the drill press I'd keep them also, hand tools simply aren't a replacement for those for many tasks, wish I had space for both

 

[skids]

I have went all in for the Festool system except for the Kapex. Since woodworking is a hobby for me I have the usual equipment, table saw, planer, jointer, sander, drill press, etc. Now I have the Festool equipment. Is it true that with the Festool equipment one does not need the other equipment? I just sold my Hitachi 12 compound miter saw and Woodpecker router system. What else can I get rid of? As you folks know I am only about 45 days into the Festool system but have spent a lot of money on it.

Thanks.

Heck no!

My two cents?? Since you are just getting your feet wet with Festool, save your equipment, and work out the redundancies over time.

Festool doesn't replace everything..e.g. The TS saw does NOT replace a table saw, and the domino is NOT and (expensive) biscuit joiner. Can you use a domino like a biscuit joiner? Sure... Should you sell yours and replace it with a domino for casework- I wouldn't. The joints in case work won't come apart with a biscuit joiner , but if you are planning for finer work then yes, Domino is allows for more accuracy.

In my opinion, the biggest strengths of Festool (besides the quality and awesome customer service) are (just my opinion in no certain order), dust collection, storage solutions, the sanders, and the 'system approach'..You will discover however that the system approach you have trouble finding some tools that are just all arounders since alot of Festool is designed to carry out tasks specifically. Sanders are a good example, you will need at least two to get the best (and I mean the best!) results. 

Like anything, it's all subjective, and what is a game-changer tool for one may not be for then next user. Take your time and hold on those shop tools until you know how you will incorporate the new Festool equipment into your process. The Festool will certainly shake up the way you once thought about executing thats for sure!

Good luck!

 

[pugilato]

For stuff that you are on the fence about, keep it for a while and if you dont use it, sell it. Like the man said, you may need it later, but later should have a time limit.

 

[leakyroof]

If you have a biscuit joiner, dump it, especially if you have a Domino.  I finally sold my old Freud JS100 the other day after not touching it for years.  The sooner you sell the stuff you don't need, the more it will bring.  Someday those other tools will just be fishing weights when everyone else is using Festool!   [scared]  [big grin]

Actually the biscuit joiner is great for doing grooves for magic fingers for removable partitions. I use it for that purpose and it works great!! So there are tools out there that are not festal that still are very useful in the cabinet/furniture building world. I own a ton of festool stuff and love it all but nothing beats a Martin sliding table saw or jointer. Everything still has a purpose in some way or another. Cheers

Justin-

. Hey Justin, do you have a link or pic for those 'magic fingers' you posted about?
Was not sure if they are a Lamello product, or something else.. [blink]

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Sometimes you might use a certain tool for a while to do certain jobs then not touch for ages as you are doing different projects. As long as it is not taking up a ton of room I would keep. Certain tools you may only use once in a blue moon, but when you need them they come in handy.

 

[jackandhenry]

If you have a biscuit joiner, dump it, especially if you have a Domino.  I finally sold my old Freud JS100 the other day after not touching it for years.  The sooner you sell the stuff you don't need, the more it will bring.  Someday those other tools will just be fishing weights when everyone else is using Festool!   [scared]  [big grin]

Actually the biscuit joiner is great for doing grooves for magic fingers for removable partitions. I use it for that purpose and it works great!! So there are tools out there that are not festal that still are very useful in the cabinet/furniture building world. I own a ton of festool stuff and love it all but nothing beats a Martin sliding table saw or jointer. Everything still has a purpose in some way or another. Cheers

Justin-

. Hey Justin, do you have a link or pic for those 'magic fingers' you posted about?
Was not sure if they are a Lamello product, or something else.. [blink]

Sure man. Actually its magic wire. I use it for partitions in cabinets. They also say they can be used as supports but I prob wouldn't. I use them quite often actually. The biscuit jointer makes a perfect grove for the wire to slide on the partition. Just make sure the groove is dead center for your measurement. Hope that helps!!
Find the hardware here.  http://www.wwhardware.com/magic-wire-shelf-supports-syx520