What - non Festool - tool / workshop related gizmo/stuff did you buy today?

[luvmytoolz]

I have never seen that flex driver and I'm not so sure I get it? What is the point?
I like the one that comes in the box, when you buy the Clamex themselves. It's a 90 degree hex-key style with a much longer leg on the short side. This gives you knuckle space to turn it.

CRG, it's life changing mate! ;-)

Seriously though, it makes quickly tightening and loosening them a breeze, and being longer helps to line it and insert too compared to using a shorter allen key as you can approach from any angle! Honestly, if you got hold of one and tried it for a day you'd never hand it back.

 

[ChuckM]

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[member=57948]ChuckS[/member] I have been using the Amana cutters for quite a while. There is no discernable difference in how thy cut/fit, etc.

Thx and good to know.

As a hobbyist, I don't think I'd need any spare cutters other than the 4mm, which has a higher chance of breaking due to user error. I also have a Festool 5mm spare cutter already.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Well that's interesting [member=57948]ChuckS[/member] that is my least used cutter by far. I know what you mean about breaking versus wearing out, that 4mm is so tiny in comparison. I still have over half of the original bag that came in the assortment set.
I use more 6mm than any other and probably 10mm next.
Most of my work is with 3/4" sheet goods or hardwood slabs in the 1 1/2" to 2" range.

The new thing I got this week was a "set" that doesn't exist, that I could find anyway. I got all of the pieces individually and the holder/mount to go with it. Wera Kraftform hex drivers 2mm - 6mm

 

[thudchkr]

Well that's interesting [member=57948]ChuckS[/member] that is my least used cutter by far. I know what you mean about breaking versus wearing out, that 4mm is so tiny in comparison. I still have over half of the original bag that came in the assortment set.
I use more 6mm than any other and probably 10mm next.
Most of my work is with 3/4" sheet goods or hardwood slabs in the 1 1/2" to 2" range.

The new thing I got this week was a "set" that doesn't exist, that I could find anyway. I got all of the pieces individually and the holder/mount to go with it. Wera Kraftform hex drivers 2mm - 6mm

KC Tools has a Kraftform hex driver set,https://www.kctool.com/wera-kraftfo...eSSaHKdd-KZFxwyMXCp_yc0W4dmOPMpxoCoPwQAvD_BwE

After seeing your set, figured it would be a good addition to have.

 

[Packard]

CMT makes Domino cutters too.  How do they stack up?

 

[Cheese]

I've always used a boar hair brush to wash cars & motorcycles or really to wash or clean any delicate surface. The typical polyester bristle brush is fine for hard surfaces, think concrete, wood or metal but it will scratch delicate surfaces.

Shown below are:
1. Boar hair car washing brush manufactured by Montana.
2. Boar hair detailing brush that can be used dry on automotive interiors or used wet on aluminum wheels around the lug nuts.
3. Boar hair vacuum brush manufactured for Miele.
4. Polyester bristle vacuum brush manufactured for Festool.

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Here's a close-up of the 3 boar hair brushes.

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And here's a close-up of the typical polyester bristle brush.

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This Miele boar hair brush is quite nice and is really soft. It has an internal joint so it can be swiveled to many positions. It's not cheap at $40 but that's really not an unreasonable price considering the construction and materials used. It also attaches directly to a Festool vac hose...bonus round. [smile]

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[Michael Kellough]

That Miele is the only one I use on woodworking projects and everything else except concrete. The fine bristles are better at sweeping dust out of grain and the non-static nature is also a benefit.

My only complaint is that the swivel joint swivels when I don’t want it too. All four of my Miele brushes have ugly blue tape around the joints.

Does bore bristle still perform when wet? Doesn’t it get soft in water?

 

[woodferret]

Does the Miele head still suck well?  I had grabbed the festool long one thinking it'd be good for benches, but the aperture was too large and almost fails to pick anything up.

 

[luvmytoolz]

I came across an absolute score I definitely couldn't pass up, a brand spanking new old stock ELU MOF177E 1/2" shank router!

Brand new sealed in the box with all the accessories! The seller had 3 that his FIL who worked in the supply chain got at least some 30+ years ago he thinks, and they'd sat on the shelf in the garage since!

My 40+ year old one on the right is serialised in the low 12,000's,while the new one on the left, serialised in the low 11,000's, is still a type 2 but slightly different handles and pillar locking mechanism, so I'm not sure if it pre-dates my old one, or came after and they reset the serial numbers. I'm absolutely stoked though, last one he had and I got it for a bargain. These old ELU's are such a sensational router!

Given the new one doesn't have the spindle lock and instead requires using two wrenches, I'm guessing it's quite likely older than my 40+ year old one, as surely they wouldn't bring a model out with a spindle lock, and then remove it on the next design?

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[rmwarren]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] great score, congrats. I suspect you are correct that your original one is younger than its cousin. The Dewalt badged version has the spindle lock and is still available
https://www.northcoast.com/product/... feed&utm_content=free google shopping clicks

Hard to believe a 40 year old power tool design is still in production.

I have one gathering dust mostly, I think it was my second router so not much younger than yours, get hauled out when I need to do anything that would strain the 1400.

Enjoy it.

RMW

 

[luvmytoolz]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] great score, congrats. I suspect you are correct that your original one is younger than its cousin. The Dewalt badged version has the spindle lock and is still available
https://www.northcoast.com/product/... feed&utm_content=free google shopping clicks

Hard to believe a 40 year old power tool design is still in production.

I have one gathering dust mostly, I think it was my second router so not much younger than yours, get hauled out when I need to do anything that would strain the 1400.

Enjoy it.

RMW

It's really impressive the important and extremely useful changes ELU made between the two models, the later one (my old one) has a better shaft lock that's much easier and natural to use, the handles are larger and more ergonomic, the height adjustment nut has a spring loaded quick release, the template quide ring is variable height, and of course the spindle lock. I guess DeWalt thought with the later model, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

I've been using my old one for slab milling White Oak with a large 2" milling cutter, and it's as much a joy to use, and as powerful now as it ever was. Far, far nicer to use and way less noisy than my old Makita's, TR12's, etc.

 

[smorgasbord]

I have, and continue to use, an old Bosch 1613 EVS router. Here's a mini-review:https://www.finewoodworking.com/2005/10/25/midsize-plunge-router-1613aevs-review

What I still like about this router is the micro-depth adjustment. Here's a picture:
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Instead of having to adjust the stop or stop-rod, then plunge down to check, you loosen the stop-rod and plunge to the depth you want and release the lever. Now, with the lever locked, you can tun the knob at the top and the router moves up or down. It's marked in 0.1mm or 1/256", and it's easy to split those. So, you can lie the router on its side and have your ruler/caliper measuring the bit distance from the base while you turn the knob. When you've got it, just lower the stop-rod to the lowest stop on the turret and you're now good to go with whatever increments you need to get to full depth.

And, if you want, you can make a test cut at full depth and if it's not right, loosen the stop-rod and turn the knob, then lower the stop-rod and lock. Easy-peasy.

I don't know why Bosch didn't carry this mechanism over to other routers, nor why no-one else has adopted it. Anyone know? Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[ChuckM]

[member=77266]smorgasbord[/member]

I have the same router, and that's all I need for all the big jobs (I have other routers for small to medium jobs). If you ask me, the only thing that it's lacking compared to the Festool big bro is the LED light, or maybe other Festool accessories that I don't have a need for. I wouldn't hesitate recommending this Bosch to anyone who needs a router for serious tasks.

 

[Packard]

As for the age of a working router, I think I have you guys beat.  I rode my bicycle to Sears to buy a Craftsman router.  So, I had to be less than 17 at that time.  That makes my router 58 years old. 

I rarely use it.  Changing bits requires two wrenches and is very awkward.  Setting the depth of cut is awkward also.

Replacing the motor brushes was easy the last time I did that.  But probably difficult now.  Where would I buy new brushes for a 58 year old router motor?  But it still works, and I have the accessories that go with it. 

 

[derekcohen]

I came across an absolute score I definitely couldn't pass up, a brand spanking new old stock ELU MOF177E 1/2" shank router!

Brand new sealed in the box with all the accessories! The seller had 3 that his FIL who worked in the supply chain got at least some 30+ years ago he thinks, and they'd sat on the shelf in the garage since!

My 40+ year old one on the right is serialised in the low 12,000's,while the new one on the left, serialised in the low 11,000's, is still a type 2 but slightly different handles and pillar locking mechanism, so I'm not sure if it pre-dates my old one, or came after and they reset the serial numbers. I'm absolutely stoked though, last one he had and I got it for a bargain. These old ELU's are such a sensational router!

Given the new one doesn't have the spindle lock and instead requires using two wrenches, I'm guessing it's quite likely older than my 40+ year old one, as surely they wouldn't bring a model out with a spindle lock, and then remove it on the next design?

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First of all congrats - that is a real score! Elu are bullet-proof.

The badges suggest Italian-made, which were the later models. I have four Elu routers: 2 x 177e (one is in a router table), a MOF97 - both of which are Swiss-made and purchased in about 1980), and and MOF96 (which was an old friends). The MOF96 is Italian-made. Having noted this, all have spindle locks.



Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Jlahr16]

Needed a larger tool box for the garage shop so I jumped on harbor freights parking lot sale and ordered their triple bank US general series 3 box in white. anyone else use this box and how has it held up for you? seemed too good to pass up for 450$ off

 

[luvmytoolz]

First of all congrats - that is a real score! Elu are bullet-proof.

The badges suggest Italian-made, which were the later models. I have four Elu routers: 2 x 177e (one is in a router table), a MOF97 - both of which are Swiss-made and purchased in about 1980), and and MOF96 (which was an old friends). The MOF96 is Italian-made. Having noted this, all have spindle locks.

Regards from Perth

Derek

That's a nice family of MOF's Derek!

I just had a look at the plates as I was sure they weren't made in Italy, and they're both Swiss made, which makes sense as the one I originally purchased that is the newer model, was bought around 40 years ago, with the NOS one picked up recently being slightly older still. I note on yours the speed knobs and lock buttons are blue, wonder what this was meant to signify, or why the change was made?

That was a stupendously expensive purchase at the time, couple of weeks pay if I remember right, but as I had been recently introduced to the benefits of some Festo gear, I had quickly developed an appreciation for good quality tools.

 

[smorgasbord]

[member=77266]smorgasbord[/member]

I have the same router, and that's all I need for all the big jobs (I have other routers for small to medium jobs). If you ask me, the only thing that it's lacking compared to the Festool big bro is the LED light, or maybe other Festool accessories that I don't have a need for. I wouldn't hesitate recommending this Bosch to anyone who needs a router for serious tasks.

The Bosch 1613 has been discontinued for several years now. The 1617 appears to be its replacement, but that's not just a larger, more powerful and heavier router, it doesn't have the nifty micro-depth-adjust I described.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Well that's interesting [member=57948]ChuckS[/member] that is my least used cutter by far. I know what you mean about breaking versus wearing out, that 4mm is so tiny in comparison. I still have over half of the original bag that came in the assortment set.
I use more 6mm than any other and probably 10mm next.
Most of my work is with 3/4" sheet goods or hardwood slabs in the 1 1/2" to 2" range.

The new thing I got this week was a "set" that doesn't exist, that I could find anyway. I got all of the pieces individually and the holder/mount to go with it. Wera Kraftform hex drivers 2mm - 6mm

KC Tools has a Kraftform hex driver set,https://www.kctool.com/wera-kraftfo...eSSaHKdd-KZFxwyMXCp_yc0W4dmOPMpxoCoPwQAvD_BwE

After seeing your set, figured it would be a good addition to have.

I missed that somehow. From that, it appears that I'm missing the 8mm. I don't know that it would be any use to me, so I guess it's ok  [unsure]

 

[woodferret]

The Bosch 1613 has been discontinued for several years now. The 1617 appears to be its replacement, but that's not just a larger, more powerful and heavier router, it doesn't have the nifty micro-depth-adjust I described.

Bosch MRP23EVS