What's New for Festool in 2020
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pettyconstruction
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I’m glad to see Festool getting more into cordless, But the elephant in the room seems to be the lack of a cordless router.
I have several little Makita cordless routers and would think if Festool came out with one, a lot of folks would get one. Myself included,
Cheers,Charlie
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I have several little Makita cordless routers and would think if Festool came out with one, a lot of folks would get one. Myself included,
Cheers,Charlie
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I‘m still not certain, how Festool would be able to fit a cordless router into the „dustless“ system / narrative.
When I use the MFK, I never had the want for a cordless router. And for a quick chamfer, a block plane does the trick.
When I use the MFK, I never had the want for a cordless router. And for a quick chamfer, a block plane does the trick.
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My iPhone. I don't own anything anymore that has a USB-A end on it. MacBook: USB-C; iPad: USB-C; Cameras: USB-C... point is, USB-A started phasing out a year ago at best, four years ago if we go by when Apple started making USB-C-only MacBooks, so it seems silly to make a brand new product with I/O that began it's obsolescence in 2016.
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Yeah, USB-C should have been preferred. But I guess - from looking at most of my stuff anyway - there is so much USB-A stuff still around, I bet more people would have complained about USB-C than they do about USB-A. But I'm slow to change anyway.
What I think is more crucial and a bit dated, only 1 amps via the charging port. Even my oldest Varta powerbank can deliver 2.4 (USB-A) ...
Not really missing it, but I could have envisioned a bay to additionally use 18V tool batteries to power it, and maybe one to charge as well when connected to mains. But on the other hand, maybe there's an updated SYS-PH in our future too.
But then again, personally, I think, the way it is, it makes a terrific Systainer to hold personal items/stuff, that you want out of your pockets. Or that you always want on top of your stack. (Not a professional working on sites, theft is not an issue for me!)
I really fell in love with the overall design, backlighted buttons ... looks cool. So I'll be getting one - case closed. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]
Kind regards,
Oli'TOPROCK-ing'ver
What I think is more crucial and a bit dated, only 1 amps via the charging port. Even my oldest Varta powerbank can deliver 2.4 (USB-A) ...
Not really missing it, but I could have envisioned a bay to additionally use 18V tool batteries to power it, and maybe one to charge as well when connected to mains. But on the other hand, maybe there's an updated SYS-PH in our future too.
But then again, personally, I think, the way it is, it makes a terrific Systainer to hold personal items/stuff, that you want out of your pockets. Or that you always want on top of your stack. (Not a professional working on sites, theft is not an issue for me!)
I really fell in love with the overall design, backlighted buttons ... looks cool. So I'll be getting one - case closed. [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]
Kind regards,
Oli'TOPROCK-ing'ver
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USB-C is still fairly new, and lots of stuff is not changing over anytime soon (mice, keyboard, etc). If stuff doesn't have a need for it, there isn't much of a drive to change. The new port almost certainly cost more, and probably has some sort of licensing that is higher than USB1.1
Many ports have come since the first USB ports of the 90s and are gone, it keeps trucking. Not everyone wants adapters and dongles for everything.
I take more issue with the lack of ports on most new products. Give stuff a boat load of USB ports down the sides and back of everything, plus a real network jack.
Many ports have come since the first USB ports of the 90s and are gone, it keeps trucking. Not everyone wants adapters and dongles for everything.
I take more issue with the lack of ports on most new products. Give stuff a boat load of USB ports down the sides and back of everything, plus a real network jack.
For charging, the only difference here is the shape of the connector. You don’t gain anything by having a USB-C port on the charger, even if your device is USB-C. It’s just a different cable.
If Festool fitted a USB-C port, then all the people who didn’t have ‘C to micro’, ‘C to C’ or ‘C to Lightning’ cables would have had to buy one. As it is, some people might need to buy an ‘A to C’ if they only have ‘C to C’ cables. This isn’t a data connection, so it’s not a protocol difference, just a different shaped plug.
As Six-point Socket says, the real issue here is the 1A charging. This is extremely low.
If Festool fitted a USB-C port, then all the people who didn’t have ‘C to micro’, ‘C to C’ or ‘C to Lightning’ cables would have had to buy one. As it is, some people might need to buy an ‘A to C’ if they only have ‘C to C’ cables. This isn’t a data connection, so it’s not a protocol difference, just a different shaped plug.
As Six-point Socket says, the real issue here is the 1A charging. This is extremely low.
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The Sound of Systainer
The new band member in the Festool Sound family is called TOPROCK. The Bluetooth® speaker in the Systainer3 lid combines all the advantages of the Festool Systainer system with excellent sound. Four high-performance loudspeakers in combination with the cleverly designed resonance chamber ensure a clear and voluminous sound. You want more? Then simply connect two TOPROCK to your smartphone and enjoy room-filling stereo sound.
- The Bluetooth® speaker in Systainer format - bottom tool, above music
- Excellent sound thanks to four neodymies speakers and two bass reflex systems
- Bluetooth® 5 with TWS (true wireless stereo) allows room-filling stereo sound
when connecting two TOPROCK speakers
- Powerbank function: USB output for charging external devices
- Intuitive operation and illuminated buttons
- Operation with built-in battery or power cord
https://www.festool.de/produkte/neuheiten/neuheiten/205502---sys3-bt20-m-137#Functions
€210.00 RRP excl. VAT
The new band member in the Festool Sound family is called TOPROCK. The Bluetooth® speaker in the Systainer3 lid combines all the advantages of the Festool Systainer system with excellent sound. Four high-performance loudspeakers in combination with the cleverly designed resonance chamber ensure a clear and voluminous sound. You want more? Then simply connect two TOPROCK to your smartphone and enjoy room-filling stereo sound.
- The Bluetooth® speaker in Systainer format - bottom tool, above music
- Excellent sound thanks to four neodymies speakers and two bass reflex systems
- Bluetooth® 5 with TWS (true wireless stereo) allows room-filling stereo sound
when connecting two TOPROCK speakers
- Powerbank function: USB output for charging external devices
- Intuitive operation and illuminated buttons
- Operation with built-in battery or power cord
https://www.festool.de/produkte/neuheiten/neuheiten/205502---sys3-bt20-m-137#Functions
€210.00 RRP excl. VAT
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https://www.festool.co.uk/products/workplace-organisation/site-radio-and-sys-bluetooth®-player/205720---sys3-bt20-m-137-gb-240v
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I seem to remember that when the SYSROCK BR10 radio/BT speaker came out, there was some criticism that it would only run on AC or 18V battery and did not contain an internal battery.
I guess you can't please everyone (unless you have both, like in the syslite KAL II)
What I find weird though is that a systainer-speaker is called TOPROCK and a loose speaker/radio that you put on top of your systainers is called SYSROCK [big grin]
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I'm going to wait until I've heard one of these before taking the expensive plunge. Festool are a tool designer and manufacturer after all. Their previous audio offerings don't sound that good IMHO. Worries for me,
1. Its squeezed into the lid, and so I suspect the bass performance will suffer
2. What is the internal battery life? Can the battery be replaced since if it is used every day, the lithium battery will die within two years.
3. Its only a bluetooth speaker, so you need a phone or sysrock to drive it. Used all day, everyday, it will eat into a phone's data allowance.
4. its sound is described as "stereo quality sound". So does one unit provide stereo? It says you can have two to fill a room with stereo sound, but what are those 6 speakers doing in the one unit. I'd hope for some sort of stereo in one box.
5. Can a sys rock be used as a bluetooth source?
1. Its squeezed into the lid, and so I suspect the bass performance will suffer
2. What is the internal battery life? Can the battery be replaced since if it is used every day, the lithium battery will die within two years.
3. Its only a bluetooth speaker, so you need a phone or sysrock to drive it. Used all day, everyday, it will eat into a phone's data allowance.
4. its sound is described as "stereo quality sound". So does one unit provide stereo? It says you can have two to fill a room with stereo sound, but what are those 6 speakers doing in the one unit. I'd hope for some sort of stereo in one box.
5. Can a sys rock be used as a bluetooth source?
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