Where is the Kapex 120REB made?
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wpz said:
If you wish to post about the Kapex issues long written about here, please do so in the appropriate topics and don't pollute other threads.
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To be honest, I've only once had a festool product fail (the auto clean on my ct36) and that was repaired quickly and thoroughly by Festool free of charge almost 5 years after purchase, so certainly no complaints there.
I bought my first Festool in 2002 and own almost 30 Festool or Protool machines and they keep serving me well to this day, something that cannot be said about some machines from other brands I have owned over the years.
Anyway, I'll try to stick to the topic again from now on.
wpz
I bought my first Festool in 2002 and own almost 30 Festool or Protool machines and they keep serving me well to this day, something that cannot be said about some machines from other brands I have owned over the years.
Anyway, I'll try to stick to the topic again from now on.
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It is not a delicate topic to me. I realize that there was humor intended in the post.
Peter
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I have mentioned this long ago. My understanding is that in the European Union, Made in X can depend on where the most value is added. Components of a product may be imported from Asia, but if the majority of the product costs are incurred in the European country, then the product can be labeled as made in that country.
Because labor costs in Europe are much higher, a product could have over 50% material made elsewhere, but the labor cost of assembly allows for the made in Europe type label.
Can someone shed further light on this?
Because labor costs in Europe are much higher, a product could have over 50% material made elsewhere, but the labor cost of assembly allows for the made in Europe type label.
Can someone shed further light on this?
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The only Festool of mine that has failed was made in Germany with German parts, before some production was shifted to other EU counties. It failed not long after the warranty ended and although the failure was mostly bad bearings the repair cost was too close to the cost of a new tool to be worth paying.
You pay your money and you take your chances.
You pay your money and you take your chances.
The origin of country is not an absolute guarantee for quality.
A few years ago, at Walmart, I saw two BBQ stoves on offer, one made in USA and the other China. I took the American one, only slightly higher in price. Poor workmanship resulted in the upper shelf to dislodge itself after you opened the lid several times. The problem could've been caught and fixed if the factory had had a tighter QC process in place.
Of course, I did not return it or exchange it, but I had to use a pair of pliers to fix the problem. My previous BBQ (non-American, did not check if it was made in China, most likely) died from rusting through but had no issues of any kind.
A few years ago, at Walmart, I saw two BBQ stoves on offer, one made in USA and the other China. I took the American one, only slightly higher in price. Poor workmanship resulted in the upper shelf to dislodge itself after you opened the lid several times. The problem could've been caught and fixed if the factory had had a tighter QC process in place.
Of course, I did not return it or exchange it, but I had to use a pair of pliers to fix the problem. My previous BBQ (non-American, did not check if it was made in China, most likely) died from rusting through but had no issues of any kind.
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AFAIK, the Kapex REB 120 is made, or at least built in Germany, just as it’s predecessor the EB 120 was.
Might be worth remembering, although German built, many of the EB 120’s developed a smoking habit [blink]
I’m actually wondering if it really matters where anything is assembled providing it’s monitored, and has good QC.
I remember wanting a Veto Pro Pac tool bag when I first saw them advertised. All the adds and sales pitch gave a strong impression that these bags were designed and made in the USA.
That will do me I thought, as I love American stuff.
Then I discover they are made in China, and was instantly on a downer, a high priced tool bag made in China? [doh]
I contacted Veto Pro Pac to confirm. The chap I spoke to told me, yes they are made in China but, our guys oversee everything, and I can assure you there are no corners cut.
I took a chance and ordered the closed top XXL-F. When it arrived I was instantly impressed and soon forgot the price.
It had a 5 year warranty, and I thought ok, let’s see how it goes. No issues at all and the best tool bag I’ve ever owned and in 40 odd years of being in the trade I’ve owned a good few.
When it got to just over 6 years old, one of the zips failed. No problem, as I was thinking of a new one. I ordered an OT-XXL, (no zips) and this is the one I should have bought originally.
When I ordered the new one, the dealer asked about my previous bag. I told him a zip had finally failed. He asked me to take it into him and said he could get a new zip fitted if I wanted.
I said yes please as long as it doesn’t cost a fortune.
Veto Pro Pac replaced it free of charge, even out of warranty. My son now uses it.
I’ve had the new one a few years now although the XXL is now discontinued, mine is going strong.
So this product being made in China, has caused no quality issues, and the company provide top class customer service.
I have other stuff not tool related that has been made in China, and much of it, to be fair, is also good durable quality.
Might be worth remembering, although German built, many of the EB 120’s developed a smoking habit [blink]
I’m actually wondering if it really matters where anything is assembled providing it’s monitored, and has good QC.
I remember wanting a Veto Pro Pac tool bag when I first saw them advertised. All the adds and sales pitch gave a strong impression that these bags were designed and made in the USA.
That will do me I thought, as I love American stuff.
Then I discover they are made in China, and was instantly on a downer, a high priced tool bag made in China? [doh]
I contacted Veto Pro Pac to confirm. The chap I spoke to told me, yes they are made in China but, our guys oversee everything, and I can assure you there are no corners cut.
I took a chance and ordered the closed top XXL-F. When it arrived I was instantly impressed and soon forgot the price.
It had a 5 year warranty, and I thought ok, let’s see how it goes. No issues at all and the best tool bag I’ve ever owned and in 40 odd years of being in the trade I’ve owned a good few.
When it got to just over 6 years old, one of the zips failed. No problem, as I was thinking of a new one. I ordered an OT-XXL, (no zips) and this is the one I should have bought originally.
When I ordered the new one, the dealer asked about my previous bag. I told him a zip had finally failed. He asked me to take it into him and said he could get a new zip fitted if I wanted.
I said yes please as long as it doesn’t cost a fortune.
Veto Pro Pac replaced it free of charge, even out of warranty. My son now uses it.
I’ve had the new one a few years now although the XXL is now discontinued, mine is going strong.
So this product being made in China, has caused no quality issues, and the company provide top class customer service.
I have other stuff not tool related that has been made in China, and much of it, to be fair, is also good durable quality.
