Which Festool to get next??? and an introduction

clev1066

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A bit of an introduction guys.

I've been lurking for far too long, but there is a lot of information to gather before I felt confident enough to ask an intelligent question. I teach and coach in a public high school, and only woodwork as a hobby, but it has been something I enjoy and spend a fair amount of time with. It has replaced my shoddy golf game, and it's starting to encroach on my fishing! My shop was our attached two car garage. It wasn't big enough for our vehicles anyway, and no one parks inside in TX. It is/was a very traditional shop; built one piece at a time, never a charge on a credit card, mostly vintage iron and quality hand power tools. For the most part, everything was centered around the table saw and a large work bench. Throw in a few band saws, 8" jointer, big drill press, planer, dust collector, miter saw, floor-mount mortise machine, router station, and all the hand power tools; and that makes up my shop. Most tools are vintage powermatic, except my ancient Delta band saws. I use to have a 12" Rockwell RAS, but it required too much space and created clouds of dust.

Then last November, I ventured into a local store that sells Festool. Without realizing how it happened; I walked out with a plunge saw and a closeout mft1080. I didn't think much about it at the time. It seemed a little spendy, but not more than other high quality tools and a lot less than others I've owned. Had the radial arm saw only known then that its days were severely numbered. It almost happened without mention, and would almost seem quaint. Just one day I was counting bills, loading the RAS, and going back to work with the TS55.

Move forward to today, and a CT-22, OF 1000, and ETS 150/5 have joined the crew. Add a few clamps, clamping elements, and things are starting to look funny around the old shop these days. Take for instance my workbench. The heart of my shop and the first useful thing I ever completed. All assembly, measuring, laying out, beer drinking..... everything started and ended on that bench. Now it holds parts and pieces, a few tools, and a sometimes finished pieces. I still put my beer can there when I'm not working with the tools. My mighty clamp collection mostly gathers dust, sans a few parallel clamps and quick clamps. The MFT has taken over with assembly, routing, sanding, pocket holes, panel sawing..... that little thing does everything and does it fast and well. What I almost thought of as a gimmick and only bought for a good deal, has me thinking about another. My wife pointed out that my large bench would be a perfect table for the back patio and could easily seat 10. Of course there's no need to mention the sander, router, or vac. Y'all know the merits.

So it's been a while since I've brought in the Green and Black, and I'm getting ready to do one heckuva summer shop cleaning/clearance. These Festools have me working faster, cleaner, and safer; and I'm digging that.

I've got two tools on the mind, at least at the moment: Domino vs OF 1400

Let's talk about the OF 1400 router first. I currently have: the Festool of 1000, 2 Bosch 1617evs kits, 1 Hitachi 12vsc kit, and a pc 690. One Bosch always stays in a JessemFX lift in the router station. I long ago sold the plunge base for that kit. The other Bosch kit is my go to router, usually in the plunge base. The Hitachi has seen two bits; 1/4" roundover and 3/8" rounder. The PC is set up for an Omnijig and has never been used for anything else. The of 1000 doesn't get much use because I'm already invested in 1/2" shank bits. I don't see any reason to get rid of it, as I'll likely own the lr-32 at some point and time. Let me know if I'm wrong; but I could sell the other routes except a Bosch kit and replace them with the OF 1400. I don't do that much work that I can't swap bits, and these new Omnijigs are easy to repeat setups. I could keep the one Bosch mostly in the router table, take it out if I needed a second plunge for speed; and the proceeds from the others could move me toward the OF 1400 rather smoothly.

OTOH, the Domino. I currently use traditional M&T because I have the tooling; not because bookcases, desks, and end tables require that kind of strength. I have a JET floor mortise machine that is easy to use and very accurate. However, i HATE cutting tenons. I don't like cutting them with a tenon jig, I don't like cutting them with a dado blade, I didn't use to like cutting them on the RAS, and I don't really enjoy cutting them on the band saw. So I get to considering selling the mortise machine and the tenon jig and putting that money toward the Domino. However, I do have in mind that a new model is coming out soon.

Sorry for the long ramblings; I don't go there often. I figured it was good background in order for me to better be able to reference my questions and experience.
 
Clevenger,

Welcome to the FOG and thanks for the entertaining introduction.

I have the original domino and love it.  It is extremely versatile.  The dominoes are stronger than bisquits and resist the twisting you get with a dowel. 

I bought the kit along with the Domino / bit set, an investment in excess of $1,000 at the time.  Was it a good decision, maybe not.  I actually have a Dewalt bisquit joiner (and a zillion bisquits)  that I know how to use and am relatively happy with.  The projects I perform were fine with the BJ.  I got caught up in the green hurricane and could not help myself.

It sounds to me like you have made your mind up about the domino.  Since you do not have a loose tenon joiner, such as the domino, bisquit or dowel, let me assure you that you will not regret your decision.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Neill
 
I agree with Neill.  You already have a boatload of decent routers, but you have nothing like the Domino.  I use mine constantly, and find that it saves huge amounts of time.  I still cut traditional M&T where I think it is appropriate, either for high-end aesthetics or for extra strength, but the Domino is my "go-to" tool.
 
I love my 1400, but I have to agree with the others...the domino does things that you can't easily do with any of the tools listed.  My vote would be the Domino.
 
I don't have a Festool router (yet), but I can highly recommend the Domino.  It is expensive but you will be amazed at how easily it makes a loose mortise and tenon joint.  It will make many joints before you can even set up your mortiser and tablesaw.  Of course you could always mortise the ends of your board and make loose tenons so you could still use your mortiser, not cut tenons, buy the router and still have money left for another tool.

Tom.
 
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