Which Festool would be most beneficial to build a bed?

[Runhard]

I am wanting to build a bed and want a new tool. I'm thinking Domino XL or OF2200. Which one of these would be most benificial for this project? I already have the DF500set and OF1400. I also have a PC7518 in a kreg router table. I would like to get both, but I am only going to get one of them for now  [big grin] I am a hobbyist but want to get the most out of these tools. I have a good collection of Festools so far, but not everything. The LR32 system maybe a 3rd option as well (I know it has nothing to do with building a bed.) If I can build a bed with what I have now and don't need the DF700 or OF2200 then I will have funds for something else.

Thanks,

Daniel

 

[Bob Marino]

Dan,

You certainly can build the bed with what the tools you have now, though this is where the OF 2200 shines. However, you can double up on the Domino tenons and be perfectly fine. If you will be doing lots of shelf pin holes in the forseeable future, the LR 32 system would be money better spent, as perhaps another sander - if you think you need another in your arsenal.

  Bob

 

[nclemmons]

What style of bed?  I actually think you might easily get by with the current Domino 500 with multiple dominos per joint.

Do you have a drawing or photo in mind of what the bed would look like?

You may have the tools you need to build a bed and instead think about your NEXT project where you might need a different tool than what you have!

neil

 

[erock]

IF  I had to choose between the Domino XL and OF2200

I think the OF1400 has enough power to handle what you would need for building a bed. 

If you have more then one project that you can use the XL on in the future then it may be a good choice.

Now, depending on the building method you choose to make the bed, you could avoid buying the Domino XL and use the funds for a different purchase.

I have the PC7518 in my Incra table and the OF1400.  My router needs are met with the combo as a hobbyist.  Some of the Festool tools are meant for

the Pro's, and I think the OF2200 is for the professional guys (just my opinion).  I see  the Domino XL as a professional tools as well, even though I want

one, I don't need one...yet! 

Think about what other projects you have planned in the future.  If you could use the Domino XL for some of them, then get the Domino XL.

Eric

 

[Runhard]

Dan,

You certainly can build the bed with what the tools you have now, though this is where the OF 2200 shines. However, you can double up on the Domino tenons and be perfectly fine. If you will be doing lots of shelf pin holes in the forseeable future, the LR 32 system would be money better spent, as perhaps another sander - if you think you need another in your arsenal.

  Bob

I should be ok on sanders: RO150, ETS150/3, RO90, and DTS400. I do not have an immediate need for the LR32, unless it is useful in building homemade sysports and bench tops with the 20mm holes. I've mostly been buying tools in the last year, building up my shop. I've been working too much and haven't had much time to work on any projects. The OF2200 would be a much better attraction if it would work in the CMS and vice versa.

 

[semenza]

For the bed I think you are good to go with what you have.  So pick whatever you want.  Between  XL and 2200 I'd be inclined to go XL unless you think you will have some really heavy duty routing to do in the future.  Cutting thick dense wood for the bed?  Maybe a TS75?    

Seth

 

[Runhard]

What style of bed?  I actually think you might easily get by with the current Domino 500 with multiple dominos per joint.

Do you have a drawing or photo in mind of what the bed would look like?

You may have the tools you need to build a bed and instead think about your NEXT project where you might need a different tool than what you have!

neil

That's another problem, trying to figure it out what style of bed to build. The Wood Whisperer just recently put up a 3 part video (hopefully more to come) on making a bed, and it was nice. Another issue I have is that I do not have any large machines because of my small basement shop. I hope to move in the next year or so, better yet build a home, so I will probably wait to buy stationary machines then.

Thanks,

Daniel

 

[Runhard]

For the bed I think you are good to go with what you have.  So pick whatever you want.  Between  XL and 2200 I'd be inclined to go XL unless you think you will have some really heavy duty routing to do in the future.  Cutting thick dense wood for the bed?  Maybe a TS75?    

Seth

Thanks Seth. I have a TS75. I used to have my Festools in my signature, but I took it off because I wasn't sure what other people thought about that. It would probably be a good idea to add them back in my signature for when I ask questions like this  [embarassed]
My tool collection is a far cry from a well equipped shop like a lot of members on here have.

 

[semenza]

HL850 for a decorative look on the bed?

Seth

 

[Runhard]

HL850 for a decorative look on the bed?

Seth

Now that is something to consider. I do not have any hand planes either. I have been thinking about getting a few, 4-1/2 smoothing plane, block plane, router and/or shoulder plane to start out. Man this is an expensive hobby!! Thankfully this is my only hobby and I do not spend money on anything else, no motorcycles, cars, boats,...

Daniel

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

A chain mortiser.

 

[mouppe]

I built a bed six months ago. More than anything else I've made it was essential to bring the tool to the wood. The timbers are large and unwieldy.

So with that in mind, maybe ask the lumber yard to mill the wood for you so you just have to do the joinery and the decorative stuff?

I did use the domino 500 to align the sides to the head and footboard.

 

[Kev]

I'd consider a lathe, along with a DF700XL ... and I'd make sure there's a decent band saw in there as well.

Seth's HL850 suggestion has promise too if you want a unique finish.

The style of this bed has a massive impact on tool choice, but the fact that the OF1400 will turn a half inch bit means that's covered, be it a slower process than screaming through with a OF2200.

Are you thinking of anything exciting like a pop up TV panel, entertainment or springs and shock absorbers instead of legs?

Also, a RAS may come in useful if you've got some shaping to do?

Kev

 

[kfitzsimons]

I recently made two headboards for beds in our house. Both were Mission style - one with panels made in cherry and one with slats made in hard maple. Both had posts that were slightly bigger than 3" square. I used the Domino 500 and both are very solid. No need for the XL.

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Daniel

Your OF 1400 will be more than good enough for the bed but you really should consider the big Domino DF700 - it is perfect for big frame work - beds, tables and doors come to mind. If you get one then buy the dominos and cutters at the same time and save some money.

Peter

 

[butzla]

The hand tools are a great idea.  If you want to go the domino way either one will work.  I built a heavy porch swing out of white oak using the 500 and it still holds strong.  If you want to go old school and use m & t, I'll recommend the MFS400 to cut perfect mortises.  I wish I had one when I built my bed, it was great on my workbench build.  Then a large router plane to true up all your tenons.

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[Wood_Junkie]

I built matching beds for my daughters, using 10mm Dominos (DF500 machine) and they are more than sufficient.  Even with myself, both kids and spouse

I'm going to take a different tack than others, because you have (IMO) the tools to do your project, as well as many others but you're missing some critical pieces of the system.

Do you have a CT?  If not, that is a very, very recommended choice.  MFT?  Definitely a critical piece of the system.  Factor in at least $200 extra for clamp costs, 'cuz they're what really leverages the MFT usability to a higher plane (esp. the Clamping Elements).

Since you have a fantastic router, the Domino, multiple sanders, you've got almost all the foundational tools.  I'd think about a Festool jigsaw down the road.

 

[Runhard]

The hand tools are a great idea.  If you want to go the domino way either one will work.  I built a heavy porch swing out of white oak using the 500 and it still holds strong.  If you want to go old school and use m & t, I'll recommend the MFS400 to cut perfect mortises.  I wish I had one when I built my bed, it was great on my workbench build.  Then a large router plane to true up all your tenons.

That's a great idea. Am I missing something about the MFS system? The MFS700 is $140 more than the MFS400 but the difference between the 200 and 700 profiles is only $85. Usually a package is a better deal. So if I do get the MFS system it will probably go for the MFS400 and add longer profiles if needed.

Thanks,

Daniel

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[Bob Marino]

I built matching beds for my daughters, using 10mm Dominos (DF500 machine) and they are more than sufficient.  Even with myself, both kids and spouse

I'm going to take a different tack than others, because you have (IMO) the tools to do your project, as well as many others but you're missing some critical pieces of the system.

Do you have a CT?  If not, that is a very, very recommended choice.  MFT?  Definitely a critical piece of the system.  Factor in at least $200 extra for clamp costs, 'cuz they're what really leverages the MFT usability to a higher plane (esp. the Clamping Elements).

Since you have a fantastic router, the Domino, multiple sanders, you've got almost all the foundational tools.  I'd think about a Festool jigsaw down the road.

Dan, I should have read your list of tools more carefully and did not see that
You are missing the MFT and CT vac and they are key Festool tools.
Wood Junkie is correct and consider his recommendations highly.
I still think a block plane - at the very least is a furniture making essential though.

Bob

 

[Runhard]

I built matching beds for my daughters, using 10mm Dominos (DF500 machine) and they are more than sufficient.  Even with myself, both kids and spouse

I'm going to take a different tack than others, because you have (IMO) the tools to do your project, as well as many others but you're missing some critical pieces of the system.

Do you have a CT?  If not, that is a very, very recommended choice.  MFT?  Definitely a critical piece of the system.  Factor in at least $200 extra for clamp costs, 'cuz they're what really leverages the MFT usability to a higher plane (esp. the Clamping Elements).

Since you have a fantastic router, the Domino, multiple sanders, you've got almost all the foundational tools.  I'd think about a Festool jigsaw down the road.

Dan, I should have read your list of tools more carefully and did not see that
You are missing the MFT and CT vac and they are key Festool tools.
Wood Junkie is correct and consider his recommendations highly.
I still think a block plane - at the very least is a furniture making essential though.

Bob

I'm sorry for not being more clear in my first post. I was considering either the DominoXL or OF2200, if one of these would be more helpful in building a bed over the two comparable tools that I already own. I did not intend to say that the only Festools I own were the Domino 500 and OF1400, and then later the 4 sanders.
I have added my Festools to my signature. So far I have a decent collection, but I know its not complete and I will probably be buying tools for the rest of my life  [eek] I do have some hand tools, but no planes yet. I decided not to buy any machinery until I move and can have a decent shop (that's not in a basement.)  

Daniel